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To: glockmeister40
"Are all these people illegal aliens who joined the military?"

No way of telling but I bet more than a couple came from families that were. We've caught many enlistees with false green cards. I'm just pointing out that Mexicans make good citizens once they get established. My uncle jumped ship in 1940 after fighting the Russians and spent his whole life here. I don't think he ever became a legal citizen and he never applied for Gov't asistance so I guess that made him OK. Not all the Mexicans that come here illegally come for welfare, they come to work. I live in Florida and the grounds keepers are mexican. I can't believe they all came here legally but boy they work their butts off. In a short period of time they have new trucks and their own business. I can't fault them for that illegal or not. As far as paying their share in taxes that is someting that has to be worked on. Actually they do pay taxes as we all do. The moment they purchase an item they're paying taxes and are helping the economy. Ever wonder how many of our ancestors jumped ship? I'm sure its in the millions. It all seems to work out in the end.
26 posted on 01/18/2004 12:59:53 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (I saved my "JEB" signs for 08. I'll use them in 04 if Hillary runs.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
LETS GET OFF THE ILLEGAL ALIEN COMMENTS. THE THREAD IS GOING OFF TOPIC.
28 posted on 01/18/2004 1:05:15 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (I saved my "JEB" signs for 08. I'll use them in 04 if Hillary runs.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
How many of them were illegal aliens?

No way of telling but I bet more than a couple came from families that were.

No way of telling - wanna bet on that? The military can't verify the identity of enlistees in this day and age? I hardly think so. How do they give security clearances? Just hand them out?

We've caught many enlistees with false green cards.

You've just contradicted yourself. Apparently the military does check identity (green cards)

I'm just pointing out that Mexicans make good citizens once they get established.

Once they get established? There are many illegal mexican aliens out here in the west that have been established for a long, long time. Just go into any hospital ER and check who uses false social security numbers to obtain free medical care. I'm sorry it's not free care - I pay for it through higher insurance rates. Got in a car wreck with an illegal mexican alien recently? Did they have a drivers licence or car insurance? How about a registration or a current plate?

...I don't think he ever became a legal citizen and he never applied for Gov't asistance so I guess that made him OK.

No, that didn't make him ok. Nowdays illegal mexical aliens don't apply for gov't assistance - they just take it via identity theft, such as fraudently obtaining free medical care.

Not all the Mexicans that come here illegally come for welfare, they come to work.

That's true. Twenty-five precent of the prison population of my state is illegal aliens. Many come here to cook crank out in the desert or traffic heroin up from mexico. They are opportunists who take whatever they can get away with, legal or not.

I can't believe they all came here legally but boy they work their butts off.

They don't work any harder than the rest of us.

Actually they do pay taxes as we all do.

That's a load of crap. Most of them work get paid in cash and pay no taxes.

The moment they purchase an item they're paying taxes and are helping the economy.

Not in states that don't have sales tax. You probably don't believe this, but just because someone pays sales tax doesn't grant them any residency rights in the United States. Also low wage workers are net tax comsumers. They take far more than they give.

Ever wonder how many of our ancestors jumped ship?

Ever wondered how many of our ancestors came here LEGALLY through Ellis Island?

It all seems to work out in the end.

Not this time. We can no longer afford to take care of the world's problems. Especially mexico's.

I'll gladly pay more for fruits, vegetables, hotel rooms and resturant meals. I'll sure as HELL be paying less in school taxes, police services, car insurance and medical insurance.

32 posted on 01/18/2004 2:22:29 PM PST by glockmeister40
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