Jes, jes, jes Senor Bush. Legalize my wayward hijos so they can send more dinero back Mejico way!!
Posted on 01/18/2004 6:50:47 AM PST by sarcasm
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:45:29 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Check.. no change by Mexico then....
The administration and the pro-indentured servant supporters have given scant attention to the full consequences of this idiotic proposal. They have fastened on what they believe to be its good features while completely ignoring its drawbacks and negative unintended consequences. They are like Democrats in that respect--forever plotting and forcing new "progressive" social experiments on the rest of us in some misguided faith that humanity will move upward and onward as a result.
This is the same mentality that gave us Johnson's "Great Society" debacle, that most grotesque of failures that lies in corrupt and crime-infested in the infamous housing "projects" of our largest inner cities.
Regularizing and legalizing the indentured servants will result in higher wages for them (and costs to the rest of us) immediately, and will result in their organizing in unions and demanding full and expensive (to other taxpayers) civil rights as quasi-citizens. In due course they will demand, and will get, access to "better" jobs that American presumably do want--if via leglisation, then via the liberal Democrat-dominated "progressive" federal courts.
This increased expense will not eliminate but will perpetuate the market for "illegal" aliens--whose presence will be obscured like proverbial needles in a haystack by the great mass of guest quest workers and their family members (as many as 25 million persons). We'll still have illegal aliens employed in an underground economy, and they'll be harder to find.
Bringing illegal aliens "out of the shadows" (and their families out of Mexico) will require the expansion of a huge and costly social insfrastructure stateside to accomodate fully, legally, and permanently what had been denied or only provided in a piecemeal and temporary fashion before, e.g., schools, hospitals, state and federal offices and service. The taxpayer supported bureaucracy will become greatly bloated.
California will bear the brunt of these costs, and because the Bush and the federal government will have been responsible, California will be able to make a persuasive case that the federal goverment (i.e., taxpayers nationwide) ought to pick up the tab. Get your wallets and purses out. You're all going to pay.
This proposal is a greivous nightmare.
If you offer the Florida disclaimer the next time you post to the California forum we won't be quite so shocked by your input. We appreciate you have no sense of the magnitude of the problem and can approach the issue from an academic standpoint.
2) Since 1998 Mexican expatriots have been elgible for Mexican Nationality even while retaining US citizenship. Mexican nationality retains all the rights and priveledges of Mexican citizenship except the right to vote.
So the answer is no. Dual US/Mexican citizenship is not possible for a Mexican expatriot.
Maybe he's just talking about WORKING Mexicans. Many who are coming over --- unwed mothers of anchor babies for example --- never did work and never intend to work. If a blue card requires having a job --- they wouldn't be eligible but they're already covered by having a US born baby.
No change. Actually it's getting worse over there. The elites like the system just the way it is.
True --- this was Fox's entire economic plan for his country. Send the poor people over to the USA. He's irked that some of the family members have been left in Mexico --- Bush will allow the "guest" workers to bring thme over --- and he never mentioned who would pay the education costs or provide them with health care.
Right!
Any idea what integrating the GDR into the Federal Republic of Germany did to the strongest economic power in Europe?
Just what we need! Merge the Mexican economy into ours!
No, nothing that I can see. Prices are around $1.40.
Y'all don't have that specially mixed crap do you?
It is possible that heating oil got in the way of production as that stuff is only made at a couple of refineries.
No, I do not think that any more illegals will come as a result of this plan. Family members will need a visa and those are temporary. Work visas require a job.
I see a net reduction in illegals as most of the jobs will vanish when the IRS gets wind of the tax evading SOB's.
Fox is just trying to soft peddle something that will likely cost him his job in the end.
The Mexicans and the Democrats will fight this tooth and nail.
The Repubs need to get on board so that congress does not screw the pooch like they did in 1986.
Doing nothing means that the status quo remains and that is exactly what the Mexicans and democrats would like to happen.
Follow the cause and effect relationships of the Bush plan and see that it will control the situation on both sides of the problem.
Yes, it will make work visas legal, but the jobs will be severely reduced and the best thing is that much better political cover will now exist for deportations and stricter scrutiny.
Man! That is better than nothing any-day in my book.
Exactly my friend! And it's about time that people wake up and see this. This is about integration, both economically and politically, ala European Union style!
Bush and Fox have both said it at different times. Bush has said he wants a customs union from Alaska to Argentina and Fox has said on TV that he sees a merger within the next ten years in the same form as the EU.
Fifty years ago you would have been called crazy if you suggested that anything like the EU would happen.
Does he have to?
He comes up for re-election soon, and Mexican politics is more akin to the parlimentary system.
He could lose all support and be as good as ousted.
I need to study up a bit to be more concise, but he is/has been in trouble from the equivelant of the Mexican left.
I believe they want to invade! LOL!:-)
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