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To: neverdem
if you look at the map you have and see the different elevations you'll see that your min QE would automatically put a gun at high angel. i don't have to tell you that high angel ruins range unless using higher charges but even with higher charges your range will still suffer. also the north Korean artillery is more than 1000 meters from the fence line at the DMZ. also the type of gun the NK's use isn't the greatest for accuracy......let me also inform you that what you find on the Internet isn't necessarily true. there is a difference between what's true and what the government says is true. the truth of the matter that i can tell you is that Seoul is not within range of NK artillery. some US camps up north are within range but like camp Casey they are situated directly behind mountains. so lets go through a scenario real quick. the north koreans get a wild hair and decide they're going to come down the slot and capture Seoul. the standard battle tactic for all military of the world is to soften a target with a sustained bombardment. the targets would be all ROK and US motor-pools, right? well with US posts being protected by mountains, I know Casey is, the main artillery assets up north would be untouched. Now what happens on the US side? Q-38 and 36 counter-fire radars along the DMZ would pick up and triangulate any object with the size and velocity of an artillery round that breaks the plane of 10 to 20 feet above sea level. within 30 to 45 minutes each NK tube would be knocked out. why? because thats what the main objective for training in US artillery in Korea is. as NK artillery is accurate within 50 meters, US artillery is...well...read my Tagline. we also have to remember the deep-strike assets located at camp Stanley. alot to think about. there are alot of things that can't be said about the issues you are talking about. so I'm going to stop before it can all be pieced together and become a valuable peice of intelligence. the basic point i was trying to make is that NK guns can't reach Seoul. reason being intervening crests, accuracy not having the equipment to combat the two. you also have to remember that they would have to mass fire and as soon as that happened the US and NK rounds would be passing each other in the air. My money is on the US red-leg.
35 posted on 01/31/2004 1:39:04 AM PST by damian85 (Why do you have to be accurate within 3 cm if your leavin a hole thats 10 ft wide and 10 ft deep?)
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To: damian85
http://www.rheinmetall-detec.de/index.php?lang=3&fid=913

Rheinmetall is a well recognized name with a reputation to maintain. In the 6th paragraph they start describing 155 mm guns with ranges up to 40 km using advanced projectiles. Google "155mm+artillery" and you'll find multiple sites claiming similar ranges. One site described a 5" naval gun claiming a range of 63 nautical miles, IIRC. Maybe it was 63 km, or they made a mistake and put miles instead of km.

I had a hard enough time finding the map in comment# 16. If you could show me a more detailed topograhic map, I would appreciate it. It appears that the northwest portion of Seoul would be vulnerable to guns firing for maximum range from the area south of Pabang-dong at the western end of the DMZ, if the North Koreans have guns/howitzers with a 40 km range. I believe the South Africans have a gun or howitzer with a range up to 40 km that was designed by Gerald Bull, the guy who was buiding that super gun for Saddam before the first war with Iraq. How long ago did you serve in the Army?
36 posted on 01/31/2004 12:34:18 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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