Where have I said that? I have listed the only two scenarios I can see that will solve the problem. I don't think either scenario is possible at this time. I think the Bush proposal will not work but I think it is a good faith effort and one that he has advocated ever since he became a public figure. You are frustrated because you can't come up with a workable solution either. There really are some problems that cannot be solved until there is an across the board consensus on what the solution should be. I don't see even the barest hint of that attempt being made on Freerpublic. All I see i the usual contrarians using a very emotional issue as their stalking horse for dumping on the GOP and Bush in particular. This is not new, it has been a continuous theme by some on Freerepublic since the 2000 elections. There are more than a few around here that want a fist fight instead of a debate, Me, I am comfortable doing either.