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Firefighters refuse to battle blaze, but watch
Tribune Chronicle ^ | 1/16/04 | JOHN GRANT EMEIGH

Posted on 01/16/2004 4:32:24 PM PST by mylife

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Im from this area, I'll bet a buck that these guys are union.
1 posted on 01/16/2004 4:32:25 PM PST by mylife
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To: mylife
This happens all the time. Sometimes people are shocked to learn in this way that they are not inside city limits, although when it came time to pay property taxes they were highly cognizant of the slightest detail on their tax statement.
2 posted on 01/16/2004 4:34:28 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: mylife
These firefighters are an insult to the brave NY 9/11 firefighters.
3 posted on 01/16/2004 4:37:27 PM PST by Drango (NPR is the tax funded propaganda wing of the DNC.)
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To: mylife
How many went to volunteer in NY after 9-11, but they wouldn't drive 200 yards outside the city limits? I'll bet they sure like that hero label and the extra attention they get with it as well....
4 posted on 01/16/2004 4:37:53 PM PST by shotgun
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To: mylife
Ciminero said his department was not obligated to fight the fire.

If they feel this way, I question their "dedication".

Not my job, man.

Yep, sounds like union mentality.

I feel for the ex-home owner / renter.

LVM

5 posted on 01/16/2004 4:39:40 PM PST by LasVegasMac (I can't drive...55...or 65...in my SUV's..........)
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To: mylife
I saw this happen when I lived in Las Vegas. The house burned down completely and the LV city fire dept just watched. The owner borrow a shotgun from a neighbor and blew severals holes (about 3 separate shots)in the side of the fire truck then pointed it at the chief. They started to put it out when the county truck arrived. The man was charged but not convicted by a jury. This was in about 1961 or so. The house was a total loss and
6 posted on 01/16/2004 4:40:51 PM PST by bedolido (I can forgive you for killing my sons, but I cannot forgive you for forcing me to kill your sons)
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To: RightWhale
The Niles department was dispatched to the fire because the 911 call was made from a cell phone, and all cell phone calls go to the Ohio State Highway Patrol in Southington. The patrol dispatcher mistakenly notified the Niles department about the fire because Robbins Avenue also runs through Niles.

Firefighters from Weathersfield's Station No. 40, who were eventually called about 1:10 p.m., put out the fire.

You talk about people being cognizant of every detail on their property tax statement ... sounds like the 911 dispatcher and the State Highway Patrol (which depend on tax revenue for their existence) could be held civilly liable for the loss. And it also sounds like it's just too bad that there wasn't a private fire company that the person could call, who was their client, and who would come put out the fire - instead of depending on multiple levels of government functionaries to do so.

7 posted on 01/16/2004 4:41:35 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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You talk about people being cognizant of every detail on their property tax statement ... sounds like the 911 dispatcher and the State Highway Patrol (which depend on tax revenue for their existence) could be held civilly liable for the loss.

I agree. Sue the pants off them. Sad to say, but it's the only way left to get back at the government for stepping on you.

8 posted on 01/16/2004 4:43:52 PM PST by Timesink (I'm not a big fan of electronic stuff, you know? Beeps ... beeps freak me out. They're bad.)
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To: mylife
I guess maybe it would haave been a good thing to be in the city and pay the taxes.

Life is a bout choices and responsibility for those choices.
9 posted on 01/16/2004 4:45:02 PM PST by bert (Have you offended a liberal today?)
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To: RightWhale
How about these apples - I was robbed at gunpoint when I worked at a convenience store.

The way the town I worked in was drawn, some parts are city of Houston, and the rest is Harris County.

From previous experience, I knew that 911 goes to city, but that we are in county.

So, when I called the Sherriff's office, they told me to hang up and call 911 so they could have me on record.

When I told them why I couldn't, they said "well, then, it is just going to take longer for us to find you"

Thank God I wasn't hurt.

But it was a good lesson that 911 doesn't always work

10 posted on 01/16/2004 4:45:08 PM PST by PurVirgo (Here's a tip - Never weedeat the dog pen with your mouth open)
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To: coloradan
There will be a number of problems with E-911. Use of a cell phone probably exonerates 911 since cell phones are not in the system. The city firefighters are not allowed to fight fires outside their district unless so directed since they must be ready to respond to an emergency within their district.
11 posted on 01/16/2004 4:46:01 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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I can just picture it......A big shiny fire truck, and a crew of firefighters just sitting idly by while someones house is burning down. Just dont make much sense.

"When you are dealing with people, you will find that it is a whole lot better to go..not so much by the book.......but by the heart"

Sheriff Andy Taylor
12 posted on 01/16/2004 4:46:11 PM PST by backtobasics
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The house burned down completely and the LV city fire dept just watched. The owner borrow a shotgun from a neighbor and blew severals holes (about 3 separate shots)in the side of the fire truck then pointed it at the chief. They started to put it out when the county truck arrived.

I guess he must of felt strongly about the situation.

13 posted on 01/16/2004 4:50:15 PM PST by mylife
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To: mylife
It is much more complicated then that... it depends on what kind of agreement they have with the local community; And never ever under estimate the power of lawyers to keep firefighters from taking any unnecessary actions.

Besides, in general, sawdust plywood houses are just left to burn.

14 posted on 01/16/2004 4:50:23 PM PST by Porterville (I am Hispanic and Republican a old but growing political force.)
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That's right 911 wasn't perfect and E-911 should be better, but it won't be perfect either. It's new tech and I don't see why it should be so difficult but it is.
15 posted on 01/16/2004 4:50:43 PM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: backtobasics
I can just picture it......A big shiny fire truck, and a crew of firefighters just sitting idly by while someones house is burning down. Just dont make much sense.

My local newspaper once ran a photo of a bunch of smiling firefighters posing in front of a burning house. But those firefighters had an excuse: the house was being torched as part of a training exercise, and the firefighters were waiting for the fire to reach the proper level before going in to put it out.

17 posted on 01/16/2004 4:53:10 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: PurVirgo
Thats why we need to take our rights and responsibilities away from the government.
18 posted on 01/16/2004 4:53:13 PM PST by mylife
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You know what would have happened if something went wrong, he would have sued the Town claiming that the firefighters jumped in when they had no legal right to do so.

You forgot about NIASH and OSHA.... there are many bastards in the world, that are not the ground troops.

19 posted on 01/16/2004 4:53:26 PM PST by Porterville (I am Hispanic and Republican a old but growing political force.)
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To: Drango
You think the owner of that house has nice things to say about firefighters right now? I don't think so. I used to be in a volunteer fire company. Many brave men and women died VOLUNTEERING to go to the 9-11 fireground without a thought of getting paid for anything. I agree with you.
20 posted on 01/16/2004 4:54:00 PM PST by cyborg (feed marmite to the prisoners and they'll never go there again)
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