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One Never Knows
What to Say
To the Servants
The Wall Street Journal ^
| Friday, January 16, 2004
| TUNKU VARADARAJAN
Posted on 01/16/2004 5:32:29 AM PST by presidio9
Edited on 04/22/2004 11:50:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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posted on
01/16/2004 5:32:30 AM PST
by
presidio9
Comment #2 Removed by Moderator
To: presidio9
hmmm - I don't know what to say...
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posted on
01/16/2004 5:58:20 AM PST
by
jonno
(We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
To: tbpiper
What?? Unless hes looking through liberal eyes, I dont have any idea where hed come up with such an equation. I think hed be better off to drop his arrogant dot head pretense of intellect Mr. Varadarajan is vey much a conservative. The idea that every child is entitled to equal opportunity is a liberal construct. If I work harder and am more successful than you, why shouldn't I have the right to send my children to better schools?
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posted on
01/16/2004 6:09:58 AM PST
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does)
To: presidio9
I think the author is marvelling at the ocean of difference between how we Americans view ourselves and how the rest of the world really operates. Extend that idea to Iraq, and the people in the mideast being offered the notion, possibly for the first time in recorded history, that they don't have to live as slaves to a thousand year old tradition of oppression
My post from another thread, regarding cultural differences in the 'outsourcing dilemma':
[A] firm I'm familiar with is having real problems with cultural dissonance. For instance, workers are generally not loyal to their work, and a seemingly rock-solid employee might one day simply not show up (a case I have in mind, a mangager just stopped coming in... his sister needed him to help with a troublesome husband... and he walked away from his job... I'm told this is a common ocurrence).
Also, their society lacks basic underpinnings in many ways. My client is building a new office building there, but the facility is unlike anything in this country. Most construction workers live on the site, sleeping on the scaffolds. Few have shoes. Most have their brought their families, who are living on the site with them. Unexplainable delays are common, taken for granted.
A third thing that comes to mind is the 'tea boys'. The company maintains a staff whose sole function is to fetch tea for the workers. And while the workers may put in a 12 hour day, perhaps 5 hours are actual work... untold hours are wasted 'waiting for tea'.
That's an anecdotal observation, of course, but this idea of India as 'the new Japan' as we were told to fear in the 1980s, well, < yawn >.
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posted on
01/16/2004 6:13:48 AM PST
by
IncPen
( Liberalism: Working for you until all of your money is spent.)
To: presidio9
This bozo, TUNKU VARADARAJAN, won't be writing or contributing to the WSJ for very long if this is a example of what he (or she) plans to bring to the WSJ readers.
Tunku, let me be the first to say; adios!
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posted on
01/16/2004 6:21:02 AM PST
by
harpu
To: presidio9
As expressed in both the first and last sentences, the key word of this essay is "unfair." Unfairness is universal. The Indian class system is a shining example of unfairness, but we dare not assume that fairness rules here just because we don't have an official class/caste system in America. Human nature will lead us to categorize and classify ourselves and each other in subtle, yet entrenched, ways that define our culture as a whole as well as individuals. Servitude happens.
To: presidio9
I admit that I don't get the point of this article. Are we supposed to feel bad about class stratification in India? The U.S.? Both? And if so, are we supposed to do something about it or just wallow in intellectual angst?
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posted on
01/16/2004 6:28:32 AM PST
by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: harpu

Tunku, let me be the first to say; adios!
Mr. Varadarajan has been the features editor of the Journal for quite a while now. He is a Hindu, and he does not look like you or me, but politically you and he have a lot more in common than you think.
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posted on
01/16/2004 6:28:50 AM PST
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does)
To: presidio9; CatoRenasci
I think the responses to this article demonstrate the point of the author's last few paragraphs: we do have a class system in America and we are terribly, terrbly sensitive about it, so much that we refuse to admit it and get angry whenever anyone discusses it.
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posted on
01/16/2004 6:56:14 AM PST
by
Capriole
(Foi vainquera)
To: ValerieUSA
I think conservatives have an aversion to the term "unfairness", because it is often used by liberal (Democrat and Republican) do-gooders as a pretext for the government taking more of our money and exerting more control in our lives. There are many situations in life that I view as "unfair", for lack of a better word. However, I do not take the next step into believing that the government is competent to rectify all "unfairness."
To: harpu
You haven't been paying attention, have you? Varadarajan has already established longevity in his field.
To: Capriole
I once heard that in Europe at parties they classify you by asking what your father does for a living, in America they do the same by asking you what you do for a living.
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posted on
01/16/2004 7:15:58 AM PST
by
Warren_Piece
(Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom!)
Comment #14 Removed by Moderator
To: IncPen
this is called the "caste" system.
caste system = the ultimate union system.
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posted on
01/16/2004 7:19:55 AM PST
by
camas
To: harpu
This is not his first job in the field - The Field, not WSJ.
To: harpu
I can recall reading many wonderful pieces by Varadarajan for at least the last four years. I suspect his relationship with the WSJ is quite safe.
Bless your heart.
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posted on
01/16/2004 7:24:49 AM PST
by
Quilla
To: presidio9
I have always considered my housekeepers and nannies to be members of the family. Probably because they are. I shoulda been a democrat.
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posted on
01/16/2004 7:25:15 AM PST
by
js1138
To: harpu; ValerieUSA

A WSJ career that spans a period of 2002 to present
Actually, he became the Features Editor in 2000. But why quibble, right?
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posted on
01/16/2004 7:41:46 AM PST
by
presidio9
(Islam is as Islam does)
To: ValerieUSA
Hmmm....let's see: His Work:
1987-1993: Levine Memorial
Lecturer in Law Trinity College, Oxford, ENGLAND
1993-1996: Editorial writer, The Times of
London, ENGLAND.
1996-97: Madrid,
SPAIN correspondent, The Times.
1997-98: NY bureau chief, The (London) Times. (his WIFE works for the NY TIMES, duhhh! probably married his way into the U.S.)
1998-2000: Freelance writer (The Times, Business Traveller,
Beliefnet.com (too funny for words), INDIA Today).
2000-2002: Deputy editorial features editor, The Wall Street Journal &
chief TV and media critic & writer of the weekly
"Citizen of the World" column on OpinionJournal.com (the
WSJ's mistake begins!)
2002-present: Editorial features editor, The Wall Street Journal (and,
their mistake continues!)
So, good for ol' Tonto, however, were it up to me...I would be proud for this BOZO to be YOUR neighbor!
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posted on
01/16/2004 7:42:05 AM PST
by
harpu
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