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My contention is this .. Hillary Clinton will do anything and everything to embarrass President Bush and try to destroy his credibility. It was well known in the run up to the war that she and Bill were globe trotting all over the place .. talking to all those leaders from the UN WHO DID NOT SUPPORT BUSH. To me it was treasonous activity .. to publically support those people who did not support their very own President.

During one of their last visits, they went to the UK where Clinton and Blair happened to meet up at some social function. During their conversation, Clinton was overheard telling Blair that if Blair didn't drop his alliance with Bush, Blair was going to lose his job. Hmmmm? How could Clinton threaten that? .. and what did Clinton know to allow him to threaten that?

Then enters Mr. Wilson .. who is sent to Niger. While in Niger .. Mr. Wilson does nothing and returns to say that there was no attempt to buy yellowcake by Iraq. I'm saying Mr. Wilson had no way of knowing that because he never really looked. Mr. Wilson said he gave an oral report to Cheney .. this was a lie. This whole trip was a ruse to embarrass the President and PM Blair. I also believe it was an attempt to discredit the intel in order to try to stop the war .. because all Bill's friends (France, Germany and Russia) did not want the war.

I believe the Clintons suggested Mr. Wilson make the trip to Niger. The Wilsons are very cozy with the Clintons and the Wilsons have held fundraisers for the Clintons.

I'm not real clear about the UK involvement accept regarding their intel that Iraq had made an attempt to buy yellowcake. However .. after Wilson revealed he was the one sent to Niger .. suddenly Novak is writing this article which says that someone from the admin (not the WH) told him that Wilson's wife is an operative for the CIA.

There is only one person who had the motive and opportunity to reveal that info.

I believe it was Hillary or someone of her choosing; a person still within the Pentagon who used to be a part of her staff. The motive was still to embarrass the President and PM Blair and discredit the intel .. since it was no longer possible to stop the war.

I know this probably requires tinfoil, but that's okay. I just don't trust Hillary at all. Her lust for power will cause her to take risks she might not ordinarily take.

During their conversation, Clinton was overheard telling Blair that if Blair didn't drop his alliance with Bush, Blair was going to lose his job. Hmmmm? How could Clinton threaten that?

Was he threatening or expressing an opinion?

and what did Clinton know to allow him to threaten that?

Knowing poll results would probably have allowed him to ~~threaten~~ predict that. Many pundits did.

I'm saying Mr. Wilson had no way of knowing that because he never really looked.

What should he have done on his eight day visit that he didn't do? What did the CIA expect him to do on that visit that he didn't do?

I believe the Clintons suggested Mr. Wilson make the trip to Niger.

That is certainly not the idea Novak conveyed in his 14 July 2003 article.

"The CIA's decision to send retired diplomat Joseph C. Wilson to Africa in February 2002 to investigate possible Iraqi purchases of uranium was made routinely at a low level without Director George Tenet's knowledge."

and

"Two senior administration officials told me Wilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian report. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him."

There is only one person who had the motive and opportunity to reveal that info.

That seems, to me, like a rather huge leap.

As to motive... Anyone who didn't like Ambassador Wilson or his yellowcake report had a motive to reveal the info.

As to opportunity... According to Novak's 1 October 2003 follow-up article, "it was not much of a secret." He writes that, "It was well known around Washington that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA." If it was well-known that she worked for the CIA, then lots of people had the opportunity to reveal the info.

If we take Novak at his word, then, "It was an offhand revelation from this [senior administration] official, who is no partisan gunslinger."

suddenly Novak is writing this article which says that someone from the admin (not the WH) told him that Wilson's wife is an operative for the CIA.

There is only one person who had the motive and opportunity to reveal that info.

I believe it was Hillary or someone of her choosing; ...The motive was still to embarrass the President and PM Blair and discredit the intel.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you here... It sounds like you are claiming that Hillary (or someone of her choosing) 'outed' Wilson's wife to embarass Bush and Blair and to discredit the intelligence. Either I'm misreading your statements, or else I am just failing to grasp how releasing the info on Wilson's wife accomplished any of those goals.

I know this probably requires tinfoil, but that's okay. I just don't trust Hillary at all.

I don't trust Hillary either, but this requires more tinfoil than I have on my roll.