[RebelBanker]

Giving illegals a motive to go home sounds like a great idea. I think a little less incentive to be here in the first place (welfare and other handouts) would not hurt either.

There is no easy solution, but I hope smarter people than me are working on the problem. As I said, I do not believe the "deport 'em all and wall up the border" idea would be very practical. However, Sabertooth had a really good set of measures that (IMHO) have some serious potential.

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Hey, Saber, would you be so kind as to hit a couple of high points?

[Carry_Okie]

There is no easy solution, but I hope smarter people than me are working on the problem.

The point is, the President's plan, as proposed, is an unworkable and expensive amnesty that will only make the structural injustices in both America and source countries worse. It is destructive to our ability to raise a highly skilled workforce capable of generating the wealth necessary to support our national defense. Unless the people of America can maintain soveriegnty over the borders of this nation, and control of its composition, citizenship and voting become meaningless, and therewith go the Constitution's promise to guarantee unalienable rights.

There can be no compromise on that issue. Illegals MUST go home and apply for entry from their own countries or any systemic fix we might devise is rendered a cynical joke.

[jetson]

Giving illegals a motive to go home sounds like a great idea. I think a little less incentive to be here in the first place (welfare and other handouts) would not hurt either

What do you mean a little less incentive! How about ALOT of incentive like no welfare or medical until you can prove that you have gone through the proper programs to become a citizen. And being here illegaly should be used against them as recorded law breakers.