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Folks,

It is always hard for extremism in politics to face mathematics. Always. This is not new for our right wing extremists here on FR. It was true for the left in 2000. They voted Nader. They could not tolerate the centrism attempts of Gore. They cost Gore the election and now, this week, what reward do they have? Dean claims to be a fiscal conservative. Is that what the leftist extremists wanted when defeated Gore? A candidate who postures as a fiscal conservative?

No. Their vote on Nader was useless. Their vote to hurt Gore did not help them. It did not move the party's front runner. Indeed, as I type this it is possible Edwards or Kerry or Gephardt will win Iowa. They are all perceived as to the right of Dean. So again, did the extremists get a reward for backstabbing Gore?

Now we see in this article the unrelenting, unstoppable reality of the mathematics of Hispanics. Illegals don't vote. Repeat. Illegals don't vote. They would be crazy to try. Tossing out illegals has no impact on these numbers. Tossing out illegals won't change this trend. Bush has been dealt this hand. He has to play it. Let's have another look at those inexorable numbers of blacks, single women and hispanics:

"Together, this group cast 25 percent of votes in 1990, 32 percent in 2000 and will account for 40 percent in 2008. "

The GOP has been losing this group by 2:1 margins. That's about 65/35. And they are becoming a larger and larger total of the voting population and we will lose every single election in the US if nothing is done to address that ratio.

You "Enforce the Laws" types with no plan to do so . . . what do you accomplish to address that ratio? What keeps the USSC from getting stacked with pro Choice? Divided government? Aren't you the same ones that say the GOP Senate is spineless? If they are spineless now, why would they suddenly grow a spine next year and obstruct pro choice nominees? Your positions are not consistent.

Bush is the best option there is. There is no choice.

It is always hard for extremism in politics to face mathematics. Always. This is not new for our right wing extremists here on FR.

You want mathematics, most middle class families are living hand-to-mouth cereal dinners because they are paying high taxs that are given to the poor so that they can eat t-bone steaks and potatos for dinner.

We literally can NOT afford to add 8 to 12 million more people officially onto welfare because the hike in taxes would be the final push to send most of middle americans into bankrupcy.

Now we see in this article the unrelenting, unstoppable reality of the mathematics of Hispanics. Illegals don't vote. Repeat. Illegals don't vote.

You obviously don't know a danm thing about motor-voter laws. In some states, a licence to drive is a licence to vote.

P.S. The only reason I can think of for a conservative to vote for Howard Dean is in pure spite to screw-up Hillery Clinton's plan for the White House.

"This is not new for our right wing extremists here on FR. It was true for the left in 2000. They voted Nader. They could not tolerate the centrism attempts of Gore. They cost Gore the election and now, this week, what reward do they have? Dean claims to be a fiscal conservative. Is that what the leftist extremists wanted when defeated Gore? A candidate who postures as a fiscal conservative? "

Hello?

"This is not new for our right wing extremists here on FR. It was true for the left in 2000. They voted Nader. They could not tolerate the centrism attempts of Gore. They cost Gore the election and now, this week, what reward do they have? Dean claims to be a fiscal conservative. Is that what the leftist extremists wanted when defeated Gore? A candidate who postures as a fiscal conservative? "

Okay, I missed your first point here. . .thought you were saying that the 'right-wing' was responsible for voting for Nader. . .so . . .'hello' back at myself!