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Do not think we are close to extinction; but there are too many wrongs' in this situation of illegals that need to be righted. It is time for a dramatic shift of policy here that lends itself to the more positive winds of change.
1 posted on 01/15/2004 7:07:05 AM PST by cricket
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To: cricket
My son in law Juan Camacho, Mexican by birth, became a citizen of the USA yesterday in Oklahoma. No one came to his party afterward to celebrate, but he took it in stride. He has joined the Republican party in Tulsa county, and enjoys Rush Limbaugh, Neil Bortz and Dr. Laura. This article has a lot of merit, and if allowed to be brought into the mainstream, hispanics might have some real family hard working concepts to contribute to the party.
2 posted on 01/15/2004 7:12:43 AM PST by rovenstinez
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...Until Bush acted, the grinding inevitability of demographic change was likely to doom the GOP to an early death. As America became 1 percent more Hispanic each year, the Republicans could not concede this growing group to the Democrats by 2-1 ratios without risking total annihilation down the road...

He could have done his job, and secured the borders against the invasion, but what the hey, two per cent of them will vote for him.

3 posted on 01/15/2004 7:16:16 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (The only thing standing between the rule of law and anarchy is that conservatives are good losers!)
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To: cricket
Bush gives country away

Posted: January 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

President Bush's plan to legalize 8 million to 12 million
illegal aliens – maybe considerably more – is one of
the most irresponsible, dangerous, reckless proposals
to come out of Washington in my lifetime.

And that's saying a lot.

In my lifetime, I have witnessed:

wage-and-price controls imposed by Richard
Nixon;

the greatest expansion of unconstitutional,
immoral wealth-transfer programs in the
history of our country;

the use of the Internal Revenue Service by
President Clinton to harass and intimidate
political adversaries;

the sacrifice of more than 50,000 U.S.
servicemen in a war they would not be allowed
to win;

the shredding of the Constitution in a
thousand ways to bring us to the point at
which politicians no longer even question the
limits of the federal government;

the transfer by President Clinton of sensitive
technology with military applications to a
budding superpower for campaign cash;

the demoralization and emasculation of the
country under President Carter;

I watched all this and more in nearly a half-century of
life. But, honestly, President Bush's proposal to
legalize untold millions of illegal aliens is potentially
worse than any of these blunders, any of these
mistakes, any of these abuses.

Why?

First, because it is immoral. Bush claims this is the
"compassionate" thing to do. But he is misusing the
term "compassion" the same way do those who
would most like to unseat him from power. There is
nothing compassionate about inflicting pain on others,
in hurting the country, while accepting none of the
responsibility, nor pain, nor sacrifice yourself. This
move will not materially affect George W. Bush's life.
But it will impact those competing for jobs at the
lower end of the economic ladder. It will impact those
who live in crime-plagued areas of the country and
who don't have Secret Service protection. It will
impact those who chose to obey the laws rather than
flout them as their first act in America.

Second, it is unconstitutional. The federal government
has few and limited areas of responsibility in our
republican system of government. Among those
clearly defined areas are the defense of the nation
and the defense of our borders. This act is a
reprehensible betrayal of the president's oath of
office to uphold the law and execute it.

Third, it is bad policy. Even the simple act of
proposing this notion encourages more illegal
immigration into our country. More foreigners will
want to get in on the action. It sends a horrible signal
that America doesn't really believe in enforcing its
laws. It promotes chaos at our borders and crime in
our streets.

Fourth, it risks national security. Presumably, there
was a reason this president placed the Immigration
and Naturalization Service under the Department of
Homeland Defense. The American people assume it
was because he finally recognized that out-of-control
immigration is a real threat – especially at a time when
terrorists are trying desperately to kill and maim as
many of us as possible.

It's not strong enough to call Bush's proposal
"irresponsible." It is borderline seditious. And there is
a widespread perception he is making this move
because he believes there is personal political gain in
it.

That is hardly "compassion," Mr. President. That is
the worst kind of cynicism. That is the worst kind of
selfishness. That is the worst kind of example a leader
could set for the nation.

Shame on Bush. Shame on his party for standing by
quietly as he sets out to destroy the fabric of our
nation. Shame on the opposition for suggesting his
move doesn't go far enough. Shame on all Americans
who lie down and accept this outrage from
Washington.
5 posted on 01/15/2004 7:55:13 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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Hispanics are traditionally liberal because they are primary beneficiaries of all the government goodies. Morris is one of the RINO-est of RINOs and is best only when slamming the Clintons. When it comes to issues other than the Clintons, his leftist politics dominate. He has an amazing track record of being wrong on every issue he has espoused that didn't relate to the Clintons, and he's wrong on this.

He supports this Bush "initiative" (it's hard to call it an initiative related to Bush because Vicente Fox has pushed this for years and McCain is writing the bill to try to push it through Congress). Bush is just the PR man for this, it's not his idea and there is no "initiative" on his part attached to it. Morris knows that legalizing millions of illegal immigrants is good for the Dems because it brings millions of dumbed down handout seeking voters for the Dems to pander to and destroys Bush's chance at a second term.

And seeing Bush replaced by a Dem would please Morris to no end.
6 posted on 01/15/2004 7:55:25 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: cricket
Bush has struck a blow on their behalf that will resonate in their voting habits for generations to come.

I have my doubts that it will make any difference at all. But we'll see. If Bush's Hispanic vote in 2004 is higher than the statistical pattern among white voters, it will have made a difference.

8 posted on 01/15/2004 7:57:36 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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As Catholic voters, who take their religion seriously, Hispanics are a natural Republican constituency.

This is what I've been saying all along. President Bush is doing more for conservatives than any other president in my lifetime. Anyone who knows these people personally will tell you that for the most part they are family oriented, God fearing people who will work hard and appreciate this country. It breaks my heart to see dissparaging generalizations made against a "natural Republican constituency".

9 posted on 01/15/2004 8:13:10 AM PST by mgist
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HISPANICS: KEY TO GOP'S FUTURE

I couldn't disagree more strongly. INDIVIDUALS ARE THE KEY TO GOP'S FUTURE. Once the GOP heads down the demoncRAT's "group rights," and "group benefits" road, the GOP is toast. Nobody can lie, cheat, and pander to groups as well as the dishonest demoncRATs. The demoncRATs used to keep their power by giveaways to groups. They are loosing power and offices quickly. People are realizing that individual rights are the proper, and Constitutional, way to go.

13 posted on 01/15/2004 8:19:21 AM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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This is a losing horse, IMO.
15 posted on 01/15/2004 8:24:09 AM PST by riri
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PRESIDENT Bush's im- migration/amnesty proposal will probably be remembered in history as the idea that saved a political party. By taking the lead in extending the benefits of legal protections to more than 10 million illegal immigrants now living in the United States, Bush has taken a bold and dramatic step to avert the extinction of his own party.

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I'm not interested in saving a political party so it can be a continuing playground for incompetent eternal rich high school kids like Bush. I'm concerned about the future of the nation. Bringing in loads of 10,000,000 immigrants to stuff ballot boxes isn't going to do much to improve this country.

The best thing to do to save the Republican party would be to send the Bushs back to Kinnebunkport and relace them with mature men of seriousness.

28 posted on 01/15/2004 9:09:38 AM PST by RLK
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All these pundits [including Bush] got it so wrong.

The Hispanics aren't going to become Dimocrat or Republican. Their alliegance will remain with Mexico and issues such as the defacto reclaiming of the Southwest for Mexico.
30 posted on 01/15/2004 9:26:09 AM PST by citizen (Write-in Tom Tancredo President 2004!)
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Given the volume of Mexicans already here and the acceleration due to curerent polocies - no doubt true that any and every party will have to cater to hispanics first.

Probably why there is metered quotas on immigration.

To help create stability and balance.
31 posted on 01/15/2004 9:52:10 AM PST by Kay Soze (“The Bush immigration plan is heavily dependent on enforcement agencies we don't have”- WFBuckley)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
32 posted on 01/15/2004 9:55:21 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: cricket
Do not think we are close to extinction; but there are too many wrongs' in this situation of illegals that need to be righted. It is time for a dramatic shift of policy here that lends itself to the more positive winds of change.

There will also be another shift - Christians away from the Republican party. People are now starting to wake up to the deception, i.e. that republicans are conservative and represent traditional values.

Check out this website for enlightenment on the deception:

www.bushrevealed.com

33 posted on 01/15/2004 9:58:05 AM PST by exmarine ( sic semper tyrannis)
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Who cares about a political party aside from the election at hand? I would like to know where the Plymouth car went. Seems like a car company would have more permanence than a political party. What's the warranty on an elected candidate? Six years or six political junkets, whichever comes first? In five years both Rs and Ds could be gone and forgotten, bank accounts depleted, nothing left at HQ but some partly used cans of banner paint.
35 posted on 01/15/2004 10:08:43 AM PST by RightWhale (How many technological objections will be raised?)
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Apart from the politics of the issue, the merits also dictate the Bush initiative. America has 4 percent of the world's population but 25 percent of its wealth. It is incumbent on us to open our doors to those who seek upward mobility.

Did it ever occur to Dick that we're this wealthy because the rest of the 3rd world DOESN'T live here? Maybe he'll be pleased when we're 15% of the population and have 15% of the wealth. He just strikes me as that kind of guy.

38 posted on 01/15/2004 10:38:39 AM PST by Deport Billary
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title would realistically read:

Hispanics: Key to the Nation's Future

53 posted on 01/15/2004 1:01:29 PM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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HISPANICS: KEY TO GOP'S FUTURE

Just like *Read my lips; no new taxes* was the key to Bush I's successful second term as president.

55 posted on 01/15/2004 1:05:49 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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Dick, you moron, they can't vote.
65 posted on 01/15/2004 2:18:26 PM PST by Little Ray (Why settle for a Lesser Evil? Cthuhlu for President!)
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The Republicans have got to break the solid demographic phalanx that sustains the Democratic Party: Blacks, Hispanics and single white women.

Is this really what Republicanism has come down to? Basing policy on "demographic phalanxes"?

70 posted on 01/15/2004 6:16:17 PM PST by k2blader (¡Vote Bush, Amexicanos y Amexicanas!)
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"HISPANICS: KEY TO GOP'S FUTURE"

When political parties choose racial groups as their "future" instead of principles, then said parties are doomed to mediocrity. If you don't believe me, watch the 8 morons from the left.
75 posted on 01/15/2004 6:50:17 PM PST by Beck_isright ("You can't fight in here, this is the war room" - President Merkin Muffley)
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