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To: ancient_geezer
What do you want me to do? Agree with you that the Federal Government is our friend? Whether you choose to believe it, or not we all have a gun pointed at our collective heads. If you don't believe that then try not paying your taxes as see what happens! What's stopping YOU Geezer?
216 posted on 01/16/2004 10:30:05 AM PST by Destructor
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To: Destructor
Geezer used to work for the IRS and does consulting for them on the weekends. They can do no wrong in his eyes. If you dare question is wisdom, or that of the IRS, he will spam your thread with every damn quote he can from self re-enforcing courts cases where the government has given itself power because the government says it can.

Well... I don't ACTUALLY know that any of that is true... but once you get him started he is pretty much a one trick pony on this subject.

217 posted on 01/16/2004 10:49:09 AM PST by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Destructor

What do you want me to do? Agree with you that the Federal Government is our friend?

The National Government is nothing more nor nothing less that what we allow it to be through the representatives we elect and the legislation we allow them to enact.

If you want the income tax to end or abusiveness of the minions of goverment like the IRS to be addressed, the place to start cleaning house is at the source of the problem, Congress.

Railing at the hired guns, only detracts from ever recognising the source and the cure to the problem. It's like the bull going after the red-cape and never hitting the mattadore.

Recognising the red-cape for what it is, the distraction, and direct barbs at those pulling the strings and making the bad law that enables and supports the abuse, Congress.

Government is empowred to enforce law, that's a fact of Constitutional life, violate statutes and expect the minion's gun pointed at you.

It's better to go for the real problems bad law (by supporting repeal/replacement) and the Critters making the bad law(by voting them out of office), instead of pounding one's head against the brick walls of bureaucracy designed to distract one's attention from the real issues.

What's stopping YOU Geezer?

Absolutely nothing at all.

I bring attention to the mattadore and what can and should be done towards change and point out the futility of attacking the redcape.

Blaming the IRS or any agency or department is a waste of time, they will not go away and only increase in strenght, while the pushers and movers that create those agencies remain right where they are making evermore of the same kind of laws and ever increasing the power of those minions to enforce those laws we should never have allowed to be enacted in the first place.

In the case of taxation, there are better alternatives, and legislation in the pipeline to effect the change. I find it deplorable that so much energy is wasted in charging the cape, wasting people's lives and wealth, with so little addressed to actually supporting and implementing change in the law and removing those that have given and maintain the laws we all object to.

220 posted on 01/16/2004 11:41:47 AM PST by ancient_geezer
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