The Joke Is on Liberals, Says Dennis Miller, Host of His Own Show Again

NY Times ^ | 1/15/04 | BERNARD WEINRAUB

[Paradox]

To be honest, being something of a libertarian myself, I have encountered quite a bit of difference of opinion on various topics within the libertarian "movement". Abortion is one of them, perhaps the main one that generates disagreement. I also have noted alot of libertarians who take more of the Objectivist view, which is quite a bit more "militant" when it comes to matters of national defense.

[Dog Gone]

Oh, I see. Only true Libertarians like you are rational. Thanks for the explanation.

[Slip18]

Thanks for posting this, TC.

Cyber, lookie here!

[tpaine]

No need for thanks..
It's me duty to explain things to those less fortunate..

[tpaine]

It pays off to be honest. - Trust me on this..

[GraniteStateConservative]

He's a libertarian, which is fine. It's better than Rob Reiner and Martin Sheen and the other idiots.

[Dr. Scarpetta]

Getting rid of the Friday only WSJ Editorial Board was stupid - it was one of the unique and refreshing shows of late.

I liked that show too and was sorry to hear that Robert Bartley died.

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

It pays of to be honest.

For once you admit that the President does have good qualities in spite of all the opposition he is getting.

[tcuoohjohn]

well..my anny oakie...you would be very wrong again. Born Memphis, Tennessee. Have lived in Texas, Florida, Georgia, and Virginia. Have been a resident of Virgina for the last 16 years. In fact I have never lived anywhere but the south. By heritage my ancestors arrived in Virginia in 1618 ( predating those parvenu Yankees at Plymouth by some two years.)

In my early youth I was a devotee of the RC, a Moonpie, and barefeet. There are no greater bonafides than that.

[Tribune7]

A lot of women in the pro life community came to their position after having had abortions.

Also, it's the pro lifers that operate the crisis pregnancy centers for those young pregnant women.

Being pro life is just a matter of being able to say what's right and wrong and, not surrendering to intellectual fashion.

[tpaine]

It pays of to be honest.

For once you admit that the President does have good qualities in spite of all the opposition he is getting.

Is he being honest to our constitution in saying he will sign a renewal of the assault weapons bill?

[over3Owithabrain]

Perhaps when the pro-life people stop calling young pregnant women evil sluts, and stop constantly disparaging single mothers, and start demanding single men keep their peckers in their pants to the same degree of shrill self-righteousness they demand that young women remain virginal untill marriage... Maybe then, all those who are very reluctantly pro-choice, might become wholeheartedly pro-life.

Most pro-life people aren't like that. You're buying the media/Planned Parenthood spin. And funny of you to rail against self-righteousness with that bigoted rant. Besides, if one believes abortion is the murder of human life, why would one hold off on that view until they find like-minded people agreeable. "Gee, I always knew it was murder, but the people on the picket lines bother me" ???

[B Knotts]

He's not a libertarian; he's more of a neo-conservative.

[hunter112]

Don't like freedom? Let your peers dictate your business..

Freedom is not the absolute, untrammelled, unrestricted right to do whatever one wishes, but the ability to benefit from the social contract that protects us all, as well as the right to work to effectuate changes in that contract.

The thing that slavery and abortion have in common, is that our social contract has made distinctions in which living beings with the 46 human chromosomes are persons, and which are not. Our society usually errs when it draws those distinctions too narrowly, in my opinion. Yes, society does have the right to tell you that you cannot keep a slave or kill your kid, without having to pay heed to your cries of "Freedom!"

It's just a definition question of whether "your kid" is your personal property to dispose of as you see fit, like a cancerous tumor, or part of the family of humankind, which the social contract is for the benefit of. Our laws currently define that at nine months after conception, I seek to move the time frame back as much as possible.

[firewalk]

Thanks for the ping
bttt

[bonfire]

I've been checking my TV Guide for the last two weeks in anticipation of his new show. Can hardly wait!

[tpaine]

I love Dennis Miller, but I wonder what it would take to get him out of the camp that would have said 150 years ago, "Don't like slavery? Don't own one!"
-h112-

Don't like freedom? Let your peers dictate your business..

Freedom is not the absolute, untrammelled, unrestricted right to do whatever one wishes,

No one's claiming that.

but the ability to benefit from the social contract that protects us all, as well as the right to work to effectuate changes in that contract. The thing that slavery and abortion have in common, is that our social contract has made distinctions in which living beings with the 46 human chromosomes are persons, and which are not. Our society usually errs when it draws those distinctions too narrowly, in my opinion.

In my opinion, they're balanced about right.. But feel free to lobby for change.

Yes, society does have the right to tell you that you cannot keep a slave or kill your kid, without having to pay heed to your cries of "Freedom!" It's just a definition question of whether "your kid" is your personal property to dispose of as you see fit, like a cancerous tumor, or part of the family of humankind, which the social contract is for the benefit of. Our laws currently define that at nine months after conception, I seek to move the time frame back as much as possible.

No, current USSC 'law' opinion says the states can regulate abortion as a crime starting at about three months, using due process...
If they don't do so it's a state political problem, not a constitutional one.

[annyokie]

That's good to know! I'll send you some redneck jokes next time I get some new ones. See you on the Dixie ping list.

; )

[sarasmom]

"Also, it's the pro lifers that operate the crisis pregnancy centers for those young pregnant women."

Having been to one, as a client, I can only say based on my experience, I would never refer anyone to a "crisis pregnancy clinic".

[ladyinred]

Actually Rod got into the paranormal, and wrote books on dream interpretations, UFO's, ghosts etc.