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To: 88keys
"However, this being a topic of such concern to everyone, what I would really like to see is a detailed list of specific "corporate giants" who haved moved US jobs to other countries, including how many jobs were moved, which countries they went to, and whether the companies also created any new jobs here (like a "net" gain or loss of US employees in all jobs, per company"

I don't have all of the specifics, but this is what I was able to find. Exporting America

Corporations exporting jobs overseas.

3Com 3M A Accenture Adaptec Adobe Systems AMD Aetna Agere Systems Agilent Tech. AIG Alamo Rent A Car Albertson's Alliance Semiconductor Allstate Alpha Thought Global American Express American Standard Amphenol Corp. Andrew Corp. AOL Applied Materials AT&T AT&T Wireless A.T. Kearney Avery Dennison B Bank of America Bank One Bechtel BellSouth Best Buy Black & Decker BMC Software Boeing C Capital One Carrier Cendant Cerner Corporation Charles Schwab ChevronTexaco Ciena Cigna Circuit City, Inc. Cisco Systems Citigroup Coca-Cola Comcast Holdings Computer Associates Computer Sciences Corporation Continental Airlines Convergys Cooper Tire & Rubber Cooper Tools COVAD Comm. CSX Cummins D Dell Computer Delta Air Lines Direct TV Discover Document Sciences Corp. DuPont E Earthlink Eastman Kodak Eaton Corporation EDS Electroglas Electronics for Imaging Eli Lilly EMC Emerson Electric Ernst & Young Expedia ExxonMobil F Fedders Corporation Fidelity Investments First American Title Ins. First Data Fluor Ford Motor Franklin Mint G Gateway General Electric GlobespanVirata Goldman Sachs Goodrich Google Greenpoint Mortgage Guardian Life Insurance H The Hartford Financial Services Group HealthAxis Hewitt Associates Hewlett-Packard HSN I IBM IndyMac Bancorp Intel Intl. Paper Intuit ITT Educational Services J Jacuzzi JDS Uniphase Johnson & Johnson JPMorgan Chase Juniper Networks K KANA Software Kaiser Permanente Keane KLA-Tencor L Lehman Brothers Levi Strauss Lexmark International Lifescan Lillian Vernon Linksys Lockheed Martin Lowe's Lucent M Maritz Marshall Fields Mattel Maytag McDATA Corporation Mellon Bank Merrill Corporation Merrill Lynch Metasolv MetLife Microsoft Monsanto Morgan Stanley Motorola N Nabco National City Corporation NCR Corporation Network Associates Newell Rubbermaid New York Life Insurance Co. Northwest Airlines O Office Depot ON Semiconductor Oracle Otis Elevator Co. Owens Corning P palmOne Parker-Hannifin Parsons E&C Pearson Digital Learning Pericom Semiconductor Perot Systems Pfizer Planar Systems Portal Software Pratt & Whitney Primus Telecom Procter & Gamble Providian Financial Prudential Insurance Q Qwest Comm. R Rainbow Technologies Raytheon Aircraft Regence Group Rohm & Haas RR Donnelley & Sons S SAIC SBC Comm. SEI Investments Siebel Systems Sikorsky Solectron Sovereign Bancorp Sprint Sprint PCS State Farm Insurance StorageTek SunTrust Banks SurePrep The Sutherland Group Sykes Enterprises T Target Tecumseh Telcordia TeleTech Texas Inst. Thrivent Financial for Lutherans Time Warner Triquint Semiconductor TRW Automotive Tyco Electronics Tyco Intl. U Unisys United Online United Tech. V VA Software Veritas Verizon W Wachovia Bank Washington Group Intl. Washington Mutual West Corporation Y Yahoo!

33 posted on 01/14/2004 9:51:58 AM PST by BillyJack
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To: BillyJack; looscnnn; lainde
Several days later, I'm getting back to my "reading" here, LOL!

Thanks for the links, but I'm not convinced (yet) that there is a massive "out-sourcing" and/or "exporting" of U.S. jobs...more information is definitely needed!

I don't usually watch Lou Dobbs, and while I don't doubt that the "Exporting America" site list is accurate regarding companies who have done "overseas hires", there are no "numbers" shown...my question would be whether these companies are "expanding" overseas, or whether they're moving their entire base operations there, in which case they should no longer be "eligible" to be considered "American corporations"...

The key number I think would be "jobs retained" or "replacement jobs created" in the US...I would also say that many folks can be "fired at will", including me and my spouse, because we work for other people's businesses...it's just a choice to trust the employer or not, but I don't think most folks have "guaranteed employment" unless they're union workers or 3-year-tenured (!) public school teachers.

Remember in the heat of "evil corporation" rhetoric that the now-infamous Ken Lay contributed rather largely to Bill Clinton's campaigns, and if we are to remain free, our employers must also be free to chose how they run their businesses, "fair" or not...we have laws to deal with unethical and/or criminal behavior, which must be enforced (and will be, under this administration) but further federal regulation is almost never going to be a good thing (IMHO)...most of the time I don't think this should be the role of the government, although I would certainly "activate" on these issues...

(it's a short step from "primary law enforcement seat belts" to "primary law-enforced jobs", "enforced fair wages", "universal health care", and etc...)

82 posted on 01/18/2004 3:56:50 PM PST by 88keys (never vote for a person who can do nothing right...)
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