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To: Canadian Outrage; Neenah; runningbear; maggiefluffs; Velveeta; Jackie-O; redlipstick; Devil_Anse
I have a question.

I missed all the shows tonight becasue of phone calls, but I got the impression that Geragos has now said that Connor lived some time after Laci died, is that right?

Well, here is my question: how is it that the baby was BORN when she never gave birth?

And how is it that the umbilical cord never fell off?
108 posted on 01/14/2004 9:57:46 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I caught the end of LKL tonight, and Beth Karas from CTV made the point that the "witness" who "saw" Laci at the park with the two men yelling about the dog etc, has been debunked in court. Apparently, the prosecution went back and tracked the nurse's break time and found that there is no way that she could have seen Laci and the dog at the right time according to her break schedule.

When the transcripts are available for LKL, this will be good to read, as Johnny C and The Pixler kept going on and on about this witness and these foul mouthed men, obviously how dangerous they must have been, lol. Zap, they're outta here!
109 posted on 01/14/2004 10:15:32 PM PST by Rusty Roberts (RB and RG have memories like elephants, thankfully for those of us who read but post infrequently)
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To: Howlin
CNN LARRY KING LIVE

Analysis of Scott Peterson Murder Case Developments

Aired January 14, 2004 - 21:00 ET

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0401/14/lkl.00.html
112 posted on 01/15/2004 3:00:59 AM PST by maggief
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To: Howlin
...CALLER: Yes. Hi. One thing that really -- the question is, basically, is that it doesn't seem like anybody really knows much about ultrasounding because there's a huge variance with ultrasounding. I know that, for a fact, my child -- I had four ultrasounds in the pregnancy, and my child was two pounds heavier than what they said he was going to be, which would make him anywhere between four to six weeks older.

KING: Johnnie, any comment on ultrasound in this case?

COCHRAN: Well, I'm not an expert on ultrasound, but I'll tell you this. At the trial there will be experts probably on both sides. And I think that it is a science of which experts may tend to disagree. But you know, from the defense standpoint, what they want to show is that the child was older than the child would have been if he had died on December 23, and as such, continued to live for a period of time, was part of an abduction and then was placed in the bay at a later time. I think that's what Geragos is going to argue. And I'd be surprised if there aren't experts who will back them up on that point. Don't you think so, Nancy?

GRACE: Well, a friend of yours and mine, Dr. Michael Baden, who is very well respected, has spoken directly on this issue and this case, and Dr. Baden says that an obstetrician's estimate can be way off by several weeks when it comes to 32 weeks and on. Why, Larry? Because at 32 weeks, the fetus typically doubles in weight. The caller is absolutely correct. And because this body had been in the water and can be bloated for that reason, I think the only way they're going to be able to tell is to measure the calcium in the bones, bottom line.

PIXLEY: But Larry, Nancy will have to admit also that the fact that this county coroner is the one that made the determination regarding the gestational age hurts the prosecution. It will be the prosecution's own witness, or one of the state's own potential witnesses, who made that determination. Now the prosecution has to undue that with their own evidence and their own experts.

GRACE: That's true.

PIXLEY: And if they come up with somebody, as Nancy is suggesting, then maybe it will all work out for them. But Johnnie's right, there will be competing experts on the issue.

KING: Help me with something. If that child was a different age, would that mean that Scott is not the murderer?

GRACE: If they can prove...

COCHRAN: It could.

GRACE: ... that the child is definitely much older than the 32 weeks it was, the state's got a big, big problem. But frankly, in the condition of baby Conner's body, Larry, and the tests they've done, they're comparing it to an ultrasound, as the caller said, that was done back in September, all right? They're going to have a hard time proving he was over 32 weeks.
(snip)
113 posted on 01/15/2004 3:25:17 AM PST by maggief
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To: Howlin
He might be saying that the baby outlived Laci, or it also appears he might be saying that Laci was kept somewhere for weeks after she disappeared, and that then both she and the baby were killed.

I guess he'll pick which of the above as soon as he determines which is most convenient to him.

Good point about the baby not having been born... he DID still have the whole cord still attached, with no little tied-off place, didn't he? Well, you SEE, these Satanists just cut out the baby, just sliced her open... yeah, right!

And how about this: let's assume arguendo that Geragos' latest cockamamie story is true. Okay, Laci and the growing baby stay alive for some weeks after Dec. 23. (Being held prisoner by some all-powerful fiend, no doubt.) Then, some weeks after Dec. 23, the bad guy finally kills the still-pregnant Laci, thus also killing Connor. Then the bad guy dumps her in the Bay.

If that's the case, what a huge coincidence it is, how on earth is it, that LACI JUST HAPPENS TO BE WEARING, WHEN SHE'S FINALLY MURDERED, THE VERY SAME PANTS SHE WAS WEARING AT HER LAST RELIABLE LIVE SIGHTING ON DEC. 23??
115 posted on 01/15/2004 4:49:28 AM PST by Devil_Anse
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To: Howlin
you are so good spotting the things that Geragos hopes the jury would not think of! ;o)
123 posted on 01/15/2004 5:19:12 AM PST by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Howlin
Good questions, stay tuned!
132 posted on 01/15/2004 5:47:32 AM PST by Velveeta
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To: Howlin
Hey Howlin and also How is it that IF Laci died first and was dumped in the Bay and weeks later Connor dies and is dumped in the bay, that THEY BOTH wash up at the same time and in roughly the same place??? NOT GONNA FLY??
164 posted on 01/16/2004 12:44:39 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South!!)
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To: Howlin
Hey Howlin and also How is it that IF Laci died first and was dumped in the Bay and weeks later Connor dies and is dumped in the bay, that THEY BOTH wash up at the same time and in roughly the same place??? NOT GONNA FLY??
165 posted on 01/16/2004 1:39:47 PM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South!!)
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