[cyborg]

"In the beginning, I was even pig-headed about it," said Mr. Farina, who now has four children with his partner. "I wanted the kids to bond with us. I didn't want any help. In those first few years, I didn't even get baby sitters. I thought, `That's my job.' "

Wish some heterosexuals would have this opinion more often.

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I know! I have a really hard time condemning this. If two people are this committed to raising children, how can that be bad? I know they need a mother...but many women are not this involved with their kids.

[KantianBurke]

"In the beginning, I was even pig-headed about it," said Mr. Farina, who now has four children with his partner. "I wanted the kids to bond with us. I didn't want any help. In those first few years, I didn't even get baby sitters. I thought, `That's my job.' "

Wish some heterosexuals would have this opinion more often.

Bump to that sentiment. This society has produced a generation of Paris Hilton wannabes. And people wonder why men have zero interest in marriage. Perhaps because the "product" isn't worth purchasing.