Two Fathers, With One Happy to Stay At Home

The New York Times ^ | January 12, 2004 | GINIA BELLAFANTE

[erasmus605]

Just like to know what people think about this.

[cyborg]

"In the beginning, I was even pig-headed about it," said Mr. Farina, who now has four children with his partner. "I wanted the kids to bond with us. I didn't want any help. In those first few years, I didn't even get baby sitters. I thought, `That's my job.' "

Wish some heterosexuals would have this opinion more often.

[erasmus605]

I know! I have a really hard time condemning this. If two people are this committed to raising children, how can that be bad? I know they need a mother...but many women are not this involved with their kids.

[jerri]

Being gay is a sin, I don't have a problem condemning it.

[RoughDobermann]

I'm actually quite conflicted about this issue. Sure sounds like these guys are good dads. But, homosexuals, either by nature or by choice, are not supposed to be parents, biologically-speaking.

[trebb]

I have a bit of a problem believing that folks who are supposedly "wired wrong" so they have abnormal sexual feelings/instincts can have "perfectly normal" parenting feelings/instincts.

Stories like this (IMO) are more designed to break down the wall of resistance to the Gay Agenda and a tool to help the evil one subvert the Almighty One. Just another oil slick on the ramp which society seems to be sliding down...

[independentmind]

Pure propaganda. I'll be back later.

[independentmind]

Of 9,328 same-sex couples with children whose census returns were randomly selected for analysis by the Census Bureau, 26 percent of the male couples included a stay-at-home parent, said Gary Gates, a demographer with the Urban Institute, a nonpartisan research organization in Washington. That figure is one percentage point more than for married couples with children and four percentage points higher than for female couples, said Mr. Gates, who performed the analysis for this article.

Verbatim from an article that appeared in a San Diego newspaper yesterday. Now I see how news spin works.

[independentmind]

Of 9,328 same-sex couples with children whose census returns were randomly selected for analysis by the Census Bureau, 26 percent of the male couples included a stay-at-home parent, said Gary Gates, a demographer with the Urban Institute, a nonpartisan research organization in Washington. That figure is one percentage point more than for married couples with children and four percentage points higher than for female couples, said Mr. Gates, who performed the analysis for this article.

Verbatim from an article that appeared in a San Diego newspaper yesterday. Now I see how news spin works.

[cyborg]

Hope you're wearing a 10X flame suit for evemn saying you have a hard time condemning this. Frankly I could care less whether two competant,loving gay men or women adopt children. It's all good. There are plenty of kids to adopt around the world, so all those who don't like it can go adopt their own. Africa and Haiti has LOTS of orphans to adopt BUT I don't see anyone tripping over themselves to go adopt over there.

[Rubber_Duckie_27]

Poor kids.

Although I think it's great that these men are being primary caregivers instead of dumping their children at daycare, it's not natural for homosexual couples to have children. Kids raised by gay parents have a whole lot of hurdles that kids in the traditional family just don't have to jump over.

[Senator_Blutarski]

Am I crazy, or has there been an explosion of "wonderful gay parent" articles in the press in the last week? I'm beginning to think there is some sort of organized plan in the media to push "gay parents are wonderful" stories right now.

My own small town liberal rag ran a lead story Sunday feature article on a pair of lesbian parents in our town. Of course, the two women both have their doctorate and are college professors. They are articulate and very effective in making the case that they are doing a great job raising their adopted 2 year old daughter.

Of course, the article avoids all of the nasty parts of the issue, like your 16 year old adolescent having to explain the 2 mommys to their Prom date, or daddy #1 explaining why daddy #2 just died of AIDS.

[ohioman]

Gay men having children is nothing but child abuse, which will create some pretty messed up kids. I pity these children.

[erasmus605]

Kids raised by gay parents have a whole lot of hurdles that kids in the traditional family just don't have to jump over.

Does anyone have any articles/data about this? I'm sure it's out there, I just haven't seen it. I'm sure the media isn't quick to publicize that type of thing.

[Lucky Dog]

How can you NOT have a hard time condemning “this?” Are you that ill-informed or unable to exercise critical thought? Beyond exposing innocent children to the moral degeneracy of the “gay lifestyle,” there are significant health risks to the child, both physical and psychological.
We have laws requiring children to be strapped into an appropriate child safety seat in the rear of a car for their health. Most states prohibit the sale of alcohol and tobacco to children for the child’s moral and physical heath. Some states have laws concerning second hand smoke around children for health reasons. All states prohibit unrestricted child labor for the child’s health and safety. It is complete idiocy, or perhaps, more appropriately, the ultimate hypocrisy, to create these and other laws for the safety of children and then expose them to the risks of the “gay lifestyle.”
According to scientific studies, the median age of death for homosexuals is virtually the same nationwide--and, overall, less than 2% survive to old age. If AIDS is the cause of death, the median age is 39. For those gays who die of something other than AIDS, the median age of death is 42, and 9% die old.
Two and eight-tenths percent (2.8%) of gays die violently. They are 116 times more apt to be murdered; 24 times more apt to commit suicide; and have a traffic-accident death-rate 18 times the rate of comparably-aged white males. Heart attacks, cancer and liver failure are exceptionally common. Twenty percent of lesbians die of murder, suicide, or accident--a rate 487 times higher than that of white females aged 25-44. The age distribution of samples of homosexuals in the scientific literature from 1989 to 1992 suggests a similarly shortened life-span. The risk of leaving these children as orphans with all of the attendant psychological trauma that entails is highly significant.

Beyond the risk of making these children orphans, those who are housed with AIDS patients are also at risk. Dr. Max Essex, chair of the Harvard AIDS Institute, warned congress in 1992 that "AIDS has already led to other kinds of dangerous epidemics...If AIDS is not eliminated, other new lethal microbes will emerge, and neither safe sex nor drug free practices will prevent them."

AIDS has not been eliminated, nor is there any vaccine or cure on the immediate horizon. More than 80% of all AIDS cases in this country are homosexuals. How can you not condemn exposing innocent children to this potential threat?

[liberty or death]

We all are in sin until we recieve the forgiveness handed to us by God through Jesus Christ.
I will pray that these men see the light that is in the world to remove this burden that is there.
We must also be vigilant in our protection of the children in our society so that we do not slouch toward Gommorah in our desire to be "tolerant". Throughout history societies,nations and culural regions have been destroyed after a generation of the "tolerant" have taken over and allowed the do your own thing, none of my business and whatever feels good to become the laws of the land.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Well, now we know who "the catcher" is.

[erasmus605]

Beyond the risk of making these children orphans, those who are housed with AIDS patients are also at risk.

I have never heard that a person can get AIDS from living with an AIDS patient. AIDS is spread by sexual contact and intravenous drug use. Besides, I don't think adoption agencies would place a child with someone sick with AIDS.

[EGPWS]

Stories like this (IMO) are more designed to break down the wall of resistance to the Gay Agenda and a tool to help the evil one subvert the Almighty One. Just another oil slick on the ramp which society seems to be sliding down...

IMHO,it's more designed to subvert the attitude most have that religion as an institution which is based upon helping humanity stay the strait and narrow course and replace it with a much more compassionate institution which is more objective and caring....Government.

That slope is getting mighty slick these days.

[AppyPappy]

If two people are this committed to raising children, how can that be bad?

I know several people committed to raising kids. Unfortunately, they don't set a very good example for the kids.