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To: Jorge
Where is it? I've seen no post by john2004 disputing my interpretation of what he said.

So much for your claim that I have misrepresented john2004's post.

You are so pathetic a debater, its not even fun any more shooting down all your lies and errors. Its downright boring:


To: CAtholic Family Association
To: cajungirl
Yes. The act of contraception is intrinsically evil One may never commit an intrinsically evil act even if some limited good may come from it.

10 posted on 01/13/2004 11:10:17 AM EST by johnb2004

The above is my original post. Jorge is a liar and murderer of reputations. CFA has correctly represented my post and my intentions. Contraceptive devices are intrinsically EVIL and are always wrong. Using one with full knowledge, consent would be committing a mortal sin. That is not my teaching it is Christ's and I bind myself to Him.

The post from Fr. Torracco of EWTN fame should settle this discussion. Too many do not except that there exists an eternal Truth.
263 posted on 01/14/2004 8:55:34 AM EST by johnb2004
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350 posted on 01/14/2004 8:20:20 PM PST by Polycarp IV (http://www.cathfam.org/)
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To: Deo volente
Ping to my last post. Jorge is not worth your time nor mine.
351 posted on 01/14/2004 8:22:24 PM PST by Polycarp IV (http://www.cathfam.org/)
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To: CAtholic Family Association
Jorge"Where is it? I've seen no post by john2004 disputing my interpretation of what he said. So much for your claim that I have misrepresented john2004's post."

You are so pathetic a debater, its not even fun any more shooting down all your lies and errors. Its downright boring:

Right. I guess that's why you've spent more time and posts responding to me than any other poster in this entire thread. LOL! I'm still waiting for you to show me ONE lie or error that I've posted. Where are they? I must have missed them

Now let's address the post from john2004 you quote; --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

To: CAtholic Family Association To: cajungirl Yes. The act of contraception is intrinsically evil One may never commit an intrinsically evil act even if some limited good may come from it.

10 posted on 01/13/2004 11:10:17 AM EST by johnb2004

The above is my original post. Jorge is CFA has correctly represented my post and my intentions. Contraceptive devices are intrinsically EVIL and are always wrong. Using one with full knowledge, consent would be committing a mortal sin. That is not my teaching it is Christ's and I bind myself to Him. The post from Fr. Torracco of EWTN fame should settle this discussion. Too many do not except that there exists an eternal Truth. 263 posted on 01/14/2004 8:55:34 AM EST by johnb2004

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So john2004 posted the EXACT statement that I quoted him stating.

How is does this make me "a liar and murderer of reputations."?

Neither you nor John2004 have shown me where I have misrepresented a single thing he said. John2004 says that it is better not to commit the sin of using condoms, EVEN if it means saving lives.
And that is EXACTLY what I claimed he said FROM THE BEGINNING.

The truth is, neither you nor John2004 can present a coherent response to my challenge, and are afraid to admit where you really stand on this issue, so you resort to shrieking wild accusation and personal insults instead.

I'll pray for you.

352 posted on 01/14/2004 8:46:47 PM PST by Jorge
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To: CAtholic Family Association
You are so pathetic a debater, its not even fun any more shooting down all your lies and errors. Its downright boring

You like me. You really like me!

359 posted on 01/14/2004 10:04:02 PM PST by Jorge
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