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To: CAtholic Family Association
No, there are some people unwilling to tell them the LIE that condom use prevents AIDS.

How do you know it's a lie?
This is something still being debated.

And in general condoms are STILL considered by the mainstream medical community to be effective protection against the transmittion of AIDS.

Who is more compassionate: the Church, which tells the woman if she has marital relations with him on any regular basis, with or without a condom, she is going to get HIV and knows that to counsel ANY marital relations, WITH OR WITHOUT condom use, is condemning the woman to certain exposure?

Or you, who tells the woman to go ahead and get AIDS and die?

NOTHING in anything I've posted has ever told "the woman to go ahead and get AIDS and die". That's absurd.
(don't Catholics believe bearing false witness is a sin?)

Stop twisting what my message was.

I said it is BETTER for people to use condoms and prevent AIDS than to mindlessly spread it, in order to adhere to somebody's theological objection to condom use.

207 posted on 01/13/2004 5:43:19 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Jorge
And in general condoms are STILL considered by the mainstream medical community to be effective protection against the transmittion of AIDS.

In case you haven't noticed, this is a thread discussing the Catholic doctrine on contraception. According to Church teaching, using contraceptives is always, objectively speaking, a mortal sin(just as masturbation is,and fornication, etc.). The job of the Church is guidance of souls, not medical advice. The only thing that that the Church would recommend for preventing the spreading of the HIV virus is abstinence.

208 posted on 01/13/2004 5:51:52 PM PST by Clintons a commie
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To: Jorge
NOTHING in anything I've posted has ever told "the woman to go ahead and get AIDS and die". That's absurd. (don't Catholics believe bearing false witness is a sin?)

Stop twisting what my message was.

Oh, but its OK for you to say about us

Unfortunately there are some people who would prefer to see people die rather than ever use condoms.

Turnabout is fair game, don't YOU believe bearing false witness is a sin?

How do you know it's a lie? This is something still being debated.

Not by anyone remotely aware of the current research.

210 posted on 01/13/2004 5:59:55 PM PST by Polycarp IV (http://www.cathfam.org/)
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To: Jorge
How do you know it's a lie? This is something still being debated.

Condoms have a 15% failure rate in preventing pregnancy. A woman can only get pregnant 7 to 10 days each month. She can get HIV any day of the month. Therefore a one in five chance at getting HIV with condoms is at best a hopeful wish.

No one debates this except those advocating condom use between a wife and her HIV + spouse in the face of overwhelming evidence that such is suicidal.

220 posted on 01/13/2004 6:45:36 PM PST by Polycarp IV (http://www.cathfam.org/)
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