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Sooner or later, the people of the West will have to face the truth.

Hopefully, sooner rather than later.

What they must recognize is that Islam is a political movement as much as a religion. It does not recognize any separation between religion and government, and its overt goal is the establishment of a worldwide Islamic theocracy, with the Koran as the only constitution, dhimmitude for all non-Muslims, and the Sharia as international law.

I have gone back to school... and last quarter I sat in two humanities classes. Both had to do with Islam. The first prof wouldn't even call the Muslim conquest on the 700 AD's conquest... it was expansion. He wouldn't let any of the class even discuss the darker side of Islam... one religion is as good as any other.

The other prof said that when we look at 9/11, we have to remember that Islam is having the same growing pains that Christianity and Judaism had during their history. We need to be tolerant and understanding of Islam and especially 9/11, since, after all, Christianity had the Crusades.

So in other words... allow them to wholesale slaughter us because 800 years ago a Pope got it into his head to advance his political ambitions by instituting the Crusades.

The only way the people of the West can prevent Muslims from achieving this is to confront Islam as an antidemocratic, aggressive, imperialist political movement and not as a religion.

I agree... and this must be the first thing that has to happen if we want to truly win the war on terror.

But I don't see the will to do so from any of the Western leaders.... even President Bush keeps mouthing that 'Religion of Peace' and 'hijacked religion' mantra. BS! Of course maybe that is window dressing while who-knows-what is going on behind the scenes but.....

There was a Muslim flag football tournament in Irvine, CA last week. Some of the original team names were 'Intifada', 'Fedayeen', 'Jihad', etc. Imagine any other organization staging such an event even using the name 'Crusaders' and imagine the outcry. PC is truly killing us - in large part it was responsible for the terrorists who committed 911 not being apprehended before hand - in Mark Steyn's own words, they practically went around with a glaring 'TERRORIST' sign on their foreheads.

Before it's all over (the WOT I mean) there is going to be a big pile of corpses somewhere - I mean in the millions.

So in other words... allow them to wholesale slaughter us because 800 years ago a Pope got it into his head to advance his political ambitions by instituting the Crusades.

As I understand it, the Pope responded to pleas from the Eastern Empire to help them defend against the "expansion" of Islam. As far as I can tell (and I'm no expert), if it hadn't been for the Crusades, we certainly wouldn't be fighting the WOT now -- because we'd all already be Muslim (those of us whose ancestors survived the "expansion," anyway).