Antis' Efforts to Stop Hunting Backed By Multi-Million Dollar Budgets

U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance ^ | Dec 31, 2003 | NA

[cavtrooper21]

Your use of the term "sport hunting" implies that terriergal and cyrano killed those deer and then left the bodies to rot in the field. I can assure you that they were not. You imply that terriergal and cyrano don't care about the animals they hunt or the environment they live in.
Yet you proudly speak of feeding your CAT shrimp! Have you ever seen a commercial shrimping boat. It's a floating strip mine operation. Kills everything in front of the net, turtles, fish, marine mammals. But that's OK in your book because you don't want to see it and your cat likes shrimp. Seems to me that TG and Cyrano care more about the environment and the creatures in it than you do. You who are a "anti-hunting" champion of animal "rights" and the vegetarian lifestyle.

[rebelyell]

What state are you hunting in?

[BattleFlag]

Whether you beleive it or not some people do believe in Sport Hunting why do you not want to accept that?

[cavtrooper21]

I keep mine under lock and key... ;^)
..and venison chili is good for you, provided you keep the fattier meats to a minimum. Use strait venison and add olive oil as a fat... also use two or three kinds of beans and good veggies... MMmmmmmm.

Your body is only as healthy as the food you put in it.

[Mackey]

Are these pictures something to be proud of?

Yes. It's not easy in most cases to take a deer with a bow: you have to get close, you have to be quiet and accurate and you will sometimes have to trail the deer some distance after hitting it.

I want to ask you a question:
How do you think the typical deer's life ends in the wild, if he's not killed by a hunter?

Please answer...I'm curious to see how much you know about the matter.

[evad]

you've got mail

[Hot Tabasco]

they should be caught and euthanized

and then deposited somewhere else where they will continue to plague whatever community they have been deposited in.

FWIW, it is almost impossible to catch a coyote. I have bird hunted in Kansas for the past 8 years and every coyote I have ever seen, from 25 yards to half a mile has always beaten tracks like his ass was on fire when he caught sight of me. They are smart, real smart! There is no acceptance of humans by coyotes, their lives depend on their fear.

[missyme]

My post on the Dignity of Animals:

In general the intrinsic worth of animals is affirmed, with two qualifications. The first, which is hardly surprising, is that this intrinsic worth, their ‘goodness’ in the eyes of God, does not exclude their utilitarian value to humans, as Genesis 2 bears witness. The second is more problematic. Is the creation pronounced as ‘very good’ by God in Genesis 1 to be identified with the world as it is, as Job 38 - 39 and Psalm 104 would seem to do, or with an ideal ‘paradise’, such as that depicted by Isaiah 11?

Is the lions’ prey really ‘their food from God’ (Ps 104: 21) or would God prefer them to be eating straw (Isa 11; 7)? The theological problem posed by animal violence and suffering is of course that of theodicy - how is the goodness of God to be reconciled with the evil present in his creation?

[rebelyell]

Would you please tell me where you get the idea that animals (other than humans) have any "rights"?

[Mackey]

Is the lions’ prey really ‘their food from God’ (Ps 104: 21) or would God prefer them to be eating straw (Isa 11; 7)?

Lions do not have free agency; they act as their kind acts, and that means they kill and eat other animals.

Does your cat eat vegetables? Could he even survive if a meatless diet was all he had to eat? I think not.

[missyme]

From the Bible of course, I don't mean the same or similar rights as human beings.

[rebelyell]

What are these rights? Do they include the right not to be killed by man and have their flesh devoured?

[Hot Tabasco]

step up to the plate and help the Trappers.

I'm all for trapping but it's got to be one heck of a way to make a living.

Here's a story for ya, My folks had a condo in Macomb twp, Michigan and a bunch of years ago, when lots of subs were going up, there was an article in the Macomb daily about some new residents complaining that their newly planted trees on the backs of their property bordering a creek (glorified drainage ditch) were being cut down and taken away. Showing a picture of one of the left overs, it was obvious that the culpret was a beaver! LOL!

Sure enough, couple weeks later they ran a follow up story that it was a pair of beaver and that they were trapped by the DNR and relocated........Michigan flatlanders, most of whom don't have a clue!

[missyme]

They have the right to be used by people in the dignified way they were originally designed for.

[rebelyell]

Oh, you mean like for leater goods and food. That is precisely what I do with the deer I kill.

[nopardons]

These nutters must live in a high rise, far, far, FAR away from where animals live, and not be knowledgeable, at all, about the actual state of animals in the wild.

Deer, whose population exceeds what it was, prior to the landing of the Mayflower, need to be culled.So do bears and other animals, who now invade populated suburban neighborhoods, because the " pickings " are so easy.

[cavtrooper21]

How can a lion be other than what it is???
If a lion ate straw then it would be a donkey. Stop trying to obscure the issue with religious symbolism.

The animals I kill have a great deal of intrinsic value, both as a source of food and as moral responsibility. I take responsibility for the animals I eat, I understand what they are and where they come from.

You, on the other hand have no right to judge those of us who hunt responsibly and with respect for the creatures we hunt and the land they live on.
You actively support marine "strip mining" to feed a pet treats.
I fail to see the respect, or intrinsic "value" in that...

[tet68]

Hey! Nice deer!
It always amazes me how people conceive deer hunting to be.
Just go out blast away, hit bambi, eat half there, and leave the rest to rot.

They DO NOT recognize the responsiblity that goes along with it, the need to practice to achieve a humaine kill, to develop the skills to allow you to even SEE a deer much less hit one, and the skills that help you to find a deer if you do hit one.
(Folks, the deer LIVE there, they KNOW what is supposed to be there, they know what it is supposed to SMELL like and they have excellent peripheral vision so they can see movement like you would not believe).

Sometimes, they drop on the spot, that kind is the one you try for, other times nature intervenes and you have to track, and back track, and do everything you can to recover the animal. I for one don't just go, "Oh well, lost another one." We keep going until we find it or until the weather puts an end to it.

How about this one?

None of that namby pamby bow and arrow stuff here. :^D

That's my 3.25" Starch Accellorator
shooting discarding sabot 16 oz. Longnecks. HEHEeeeee!

[Hot Tabasco]

None of that namby pamby bow and arrow stuff here.

ROFLMAO! How much is the ammo? LOL!

[hellinahandcart]

Wether you beleive it or not some people do not beleive in Sport Hunting why do you not want to accept that?

I'm sure she accepts that some people don't like hunting; the question is, why should she CARE?

And why shouldn't she be proud of those pictures? Hell, those deer were tracked and killed with a bow. Takes a lot of skill.