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PROCUREMENT: Why There's a Bullet Shortage
StrategyPage.com ^ | January 12, 2004

Posted on 01/12/2004 10:10:32 AM PST by John Jorsett

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1 posted on 01/12/2004 10:10:33 AM PST by John Jorsett
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Actually, when you think about it, it is a freaking miracle that our troops are as well fed, armed and equipped as they are half way around the world. Compared to any other country or to WWII, Korea or Vietnam, the modern US soldier is way ahead in the logistics department.
2 posted on 01/12/2004 10:14:08 AM PST by 2banana
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3 posted on 01/12/2004 10:14:19 AM PST by Support Free Republic (Hi Mom! Hi Dad!)
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To: John Jorsett
Billions of dollars a year could be saved by sharply reducing the war reserve stocks, and that was what happened. Unfortunately, there were some miscalculations in doing that, and there have been periodic shortages of 5.56mm ammo over the last few years. No one at the Pentagon will give a straight answer as to why this is happening, but whatever planning system they are using, it needs a little tweaking.

It sounds like they need to get some folks in there with experience in private-sector manufacturing.

4 posted on 01/12/2004 10:15:17 AM PST by Looking for Diogenes
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To: John Jorsett
1305-00-926-9330
5.56mm ball
Lot number LCL-2004M-365006 Qty. 1680 ea CC/A
DOM: DEC 2004

Time to buy 100 million rounds above.

5 posted on 01/12/2004 10:20:25 AM PST by demlosers
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To: Looking for Diogenes
-----I would suspect that the idiocy of the Clinton-inspired tungsten-steel "lead free" environmenally approved 5.56 mm wonder bullet enters this picture somewhere, also---
6 posted on 01/12/2004 10:20:59 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: 2banana
The blanks aren't needed! The soldiers in training can just point the weapon and yell "bang"! (We actually did that when we couldn't get the training ammo.)
7 posted on 01/12/2004 10:21:09 AM PST by CSM (Councilmember Carol Schwartz (R.-at large), my new hero! The Anti anti Smoke Gnatzie!)
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To: John Jorsett
During the last days of the cold war, a Russian peasant (call him Ivan) is sent to the store by his wife (call her Sonya) to get some sausage. Ivan goes to the local state-run grocery store and asks for some sausage. The store keeper informs him that there is no sausage. Ivan gets mad and points out that this Tuesday and the government always delivers sausage on Tuesdays. The store keeper says, "In the old days, you could be shot for saying that."

Ivan returns home and tells Sonya, "Things are much worse than I thought."

Sonya asks, "Are they out of sausage?"

Ivan replies, "It's worse. They're out of bullets."
8 posted on 01/12/2004 10:22:07 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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Dosen't this fall under the "loose lips" catagory?
9 posted on 01/12/2004 10:23:02 AM PST by Newbomb Turk
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So thousands of tons of ammunition was always kept in stockpiles. But this ammo would degrade with age. Thus every year there were large quantities of "use it or lose it" ammo reaching the point where you either fired it off or recycled it.

Hmmm total BS.

Shelf life is indefinite for ammo when stored correctly.

10 posted on 01/12/2004 10:28:21 AM PST by demlosers
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BINGO!

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11 posted on 01/12/2004 10:28:41 AM PST by ChefKeith (NASCAR...everything else is just a game!)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Ivan replies, "It's worse. They're out of bullets."

More BS.

13 posted on 01/12/2004 10:29:52 AM PST by demlosers
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14 posted on 01/12/2004 10:31:55 AM PST by deport (..... DONATE TO FREEREPUBLIC......)
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To: John Jorsett
Now that we're done with Freepathon, It's time to start "Ammothon".

?;^T
15 posted on 01/12/2004 10:43:06 AM PST by Barnacle (A Human Shield against the onslaught of Leftist tripe.)
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To: Looking for Diogenes
The LC plant is run, under contract, by a variety of CIVILIAN companies, such as Federal or Winchester. The current contract is run by Federal and produces the BEST combat ammunition in the world.

Since all of the equipment and property is owned by the federal government, it's the government who controls overall manufacturing capacity, not the contractor.
16 posted on 01/12/2004 11:07:50 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: rellimpank
The lead-free bullet "green" was a different compostion, not tungsten. You can't melt Tungsten and put it in a case. You'd have to use a sintered (powdered) tungsten and form/press it into the jacket. Tungsten bullets, which are higher density than lead and have a longer effective range, are under development and the expected cost is about $1 each.

US combat ammunition is still a combination of lead with a steel rod (62gr M855).
17 posted on 01/12/2004 11:11:19 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: 2banana
Here's one of the greatest sources of info on ammo for the M16/M249 SAW (and other 5.56mm weapons):
http://www.ammo-oracle.com/
18 posted on 01/12/2004 11:17:29 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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Hey! I think I have at least a 1000 rounds of Lake City 5.56 mm left.

Maybe I can donate it to the war effort.

19 posted on 01/12/2004 11:20:39 AM PST by Traffic_Can (White Tag)
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Better hold on to it.
The gubment has been increasing restrictive about releasing older lots of surplus ammo to the public.
20 posted on 01/12/2004 11:29:22 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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