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To: A Navy Vet

As many as are willing to work and who have offers from employers for jobs no American wants.

Maybe if the baby-boomer generation hadn't embraced aristocratic morals and moral-liberalism and infantilism, but rather continued the tradition of hard work and personal sacrifice and handed down traditional morality to their children, then maybe we wouldn't need to look so hard for workers who are not driven by selfishness, self-centeredness, laziness, and licentiousness.

Maybe if those 45,000,000 American citizen pre-born babies did not have their limbs and faces torn apart there wouldn't be a debate today about immigration reform and changes in the demographics of our language and culture.

165 posted on 01/12/2004 4:40:20 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
" As many as are willing to work and who have offers from employers for jobs no American wants."

Oh please. The huge influx of immigrants have so lowered the wages of so many industries that many young Americans now have to live with parents or roomates. This is a FACT regarding the lowering of wages - do some homework.

"Maybe if the baby-boomer generation hadn't embraced aristocratic morals and moral-liberalism and infantilism, but rather continued the tradition of hard work and personal sacrifice and handed down traditional morality to their children, then maybe we wouldn't need to look so hard for workers who are not driven by selfishness, self-centeredness, laziness, and licentiousness."

Well, can't fault you on the last phrase of your paragraph, however, if workplace wages hadn't been so depressed by the glut of cheap labor, many of the Gen-Xers would be willing to take those jobs. Or maybe we would start cutting our own lawns again, or watching our own kids, or building our own buildings.

"Maybe if those 45,000,000 American citizen pre-born babies did not have their limbs and faces torn apart there wouldn't be a debate today about immigration reform and changes in the demographics of our language and culture."

Nice deflection. But it still doesn't answer HOW MANY? There are WAY more immigrants than we need to support the above services. Don't know where you live, but here in Southern California we have to designate lots for excess laborers to hang around.

I've watched entire communities transform from the California Dream to ghettoes due to uncontrolled immigration. I've seen hospitals close, school districts go bankrupt, crime soar, social services overwhelmed, and our economy tank (partly due to massive immigration).

There are formally nice middle-class communities that have turned into 3rd world cesspools in Ventura, Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, and San Diego counties simply because of illegal immigration and lack of assimilation. And that's just in So. Cal. Even the extrememely liberal Los Angeles Times is starting to point it out.

So do you have a figure in mind as to how many to let it in, whether jobs are available or not?

168 posted on 01/12/2004 5:07:24 PM PST by A Navy Vet (The Nanny State - from cradle to grave...for your protection...freedom be damned.)
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