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The Myth of Socialization (Home-Schooling Alert)
Steel On Steel ^ | September 13, 2002 | John Loeffler

Posted on 01/11/2004 12:47:40 PM PST by handk

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To: longtermmemmory
The who concept of socialization is the continued effort to eliminate self reliance and individuality as a characteristic in children.The left lives with the concept of an elite need to lord over the proletariat, to tell them how and when to live.

Bingo, deserving of a "post of the week" nomination (don't think there's an "e" at the end of "proletariat" though :->).

21 posted on 01/11/2004 1:51:43 PM PST by litany_of_lies
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To: Tax-chick
He doesn't mention a major problem with homeschooled students - getting them to shut up about everything they know and THINK they know!

If that's the worst problem of home-schoolers, I'll gladly tolerate it. It beats being beaten into submission, conformity, non-participation, and doing the minimum necessary, which is the mindset of the typical factory-school attendee. That's even assuming there's no brainwashing or undermining of parental authority.

Perhaps you were paying homeschoolers a backhanded compliment. If so, sorry :->

22 posted on 01/11/2004 1:58:15 PM PST by litany_of_lies
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To: litany_of_lies
Perhaps you were paying homeschoolers a backhanded compliment.

Perhaps ... perhaps I'm 9 months pregnant and surrounded by verbose, opinionated kids who don't stop talking even in their sleep. And did I mention they know EVERYTHING?

I suppose this isn't an issue with some homeschooled students ... it could be genetic.

23 posted on 01/11/2004 2:03:15 PM PST by Tax-chick (I reserve the right to disclaim all January 2004 posts after the BABY is born!)
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To: Tax-chick
Perhaps ... perhaps I'm 9 months pregnant and surrounded by verbose, opinionated kids who don't stop talking even in their sleep. And did I mention they know EVERYTHING?

I have a currently in public, previously (and hopefully in the future, again) in private school, child of the same nature. I think it could be because she is supplemented at home by parents and grandparents. It probably is genetic. Her grandma and mother are the same. : )

I hope this makes sense, she is talking my ear off right now, and I can't concentrate on writing!

24 posted on 01/11/2004 2:07:40 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: conservative cat
she is talking my ear off right now, and I can't concentrate on writing

Story of my life ... my oldest started talking at 6 months ... now she's almost 13. She's going to CPAC - another batch of opinions! They always want to use the computer, too!

Really, I'm thrilled that they're all bright and interested in everything (including what's none of their business ...). I'm just cranky over still being preganant!

25 posted on 01/11/2004 2:11:46 PM PST by Tax-chick (I reserve the right to disclaim all January 2004 posts after the BABY is born!)
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To: Tax-chick
May your delivery be safe and (as much as possible) quiet (until the newbie's first cry, of course :->).
26 posted on 01/11/2004 2:14:44 PM PST by litany_of_lies
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To: litany_of_lies
Thank you very much! Hope you have a great evening :-).
27 posted on 01/11/2004 2:24:14 PM PST by Tax-chick (I reserve the right to disclaim all January 2004 posts after the BABY is born!)
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To: Vic3O3
pinger-roo
28 posted on 01/11/2004 2:42:15 PM PST by cavtrooper21 (Coffee, the elixir of life..or something resembling life.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
bttt
29 posted on 01/11/2004 2:47:39 PM PST by Lady Eileen
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To: handk
bttt
30 posted on 01/11/2004 6:24:30 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: handk
Another stake in the heart of liberal stupidity.

Good work.

31 posted on 01/11/2004 8:22:53 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Tax-chick
I feel your pain! I have a seven week old girl (and we already know she's a talker. She's already gooing and cooing away.)

I was right there with you a couple months ago! I am so happy to no longer be pregnant (went to my due date, too- the third one was the latest!!!) Best of luck to you- and may it be over quickly and safely.

32 posted on 01/11/2004 8:34:40 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: Tax-chick
LOL! God-bless you woman.
33 posted on 01/11/2004 8:52:54 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Reactionary
Actually, I didn't write the article. You must be new here, because I made the same mistake when I was new, thinking something was written by the poster, when if I had looked at the header information, I would have known it was written by somebody else.
34 posted on 01/11/2004 9:02:20 PM PST by handk (That's why I'm cheesy... I'm cheesy like macaroni...)
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To: Jemian
We need facts and figures to support what we know is correct.

Try National Home Education Research Institute

35 posted on 01/12/2004 12:16:54 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: handk
BTTT Homeschooling. Thanks for posting this article, Handk!
36 posted on 01/14/2004 3:08:58 AM PST by bd476 (New Year's Resolution: Decrease FR online time to 1 hour a day... 23 more to go! *TFR 31st ed.*)
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To: Jemian
Perhaps it is an excellent article. I need to continue reading, but when analogies or descriptions employed to illustrate points are not factual, I become disgusted. For example, it was written...

"...check to see if I have acquired dengue fever without knowing it."

Dengue fever is not at all communicable directly from patient to patient and requires a specific type of mosquito to pass it.

I hope the author has his facts about home schooling straight. I'll force myself to continue reading.

Good gracious, Jemian! Your post is the worst case of nit-picking I have seen in quite a while.

I didn't know dengue fever needed a mosquito vector. Who cares? It's totally irrelevant to the subject at hand.

37 posted on 01/14/2004 4:46:01 AM PST by rmh47
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To: handk
The Myth of Socialization

...as opposed to the reality of the socialism in our public school system.

Excellent article. Bookmarked.

38 posted on 01/14/2004 4:52:55 AM PST by fortunecookie
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To: handk
My daughter has a congenital condition that causes her to get sick more often than normal, and take longer to recover. She missed a lot of school, and keeping up with her schoolwork was difficult.

We eventually decided to home-school her. This turned out to be one of the best decisions we ever made., but I was hesitant at first because I was worried about her social development. This proved to be absolutely the least of all our problems.

There were all kinds of support groups and extra-curricular activities available: sports, music, clubs, skating, drama, huge picnics with the families. I was amazed at the number and variety. Her best friends today are people she met at these activities.

Perhaps in a very rural area, socialization of a home-schooled child might be a problem; but in a city on even modest size, there will be plenty of activities available if you look for them.

BTW, my daughter will graduate from college this Spring - magna cum laude. She plans to get a PhD. A dad's got to brag a little!

39 posted on 01/14/2004 5:11:54 AM PST by rmh47
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To: rmh47
A dad's got to brag a little!

You have every right to brag.You've raised someone from birth to adulthood,and it appears you've done a fantanstic job. Congratulations!Job well done!

40 posted on 01/14/2004 5:23:38 AM PST by quack
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