Dukakis Plus 4.4 Percent?

MSNBC/Newsweek ^ | 1/19/04 | George F. Will

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Don't worry, George. Just read some of the more wild-eyed and whacked-out comments hereabouts, and you'll quickly discover that there are plenty of (so-called) "conservatives" who are aching -- no, burning -- to make certain GWB isn't re-elected in '04 without the Democrats' help, and that the tax-raising former abortionist from Vermont makes it to the White House instead.

Which is something "real" conservatives do. I, uh, guess.

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[MEG33]

This conservative agrees with Will and worries about complacency,too.Many of the "real conservatives" that say they'll never vote for Bush,didn't vote for him in 2000.

Others are sincerely going to vote for Dean as they are in a snit about one policy or another and feel it is better to have Dean endanger the nation's security,raise taxes,and give our sovereignty to the UN than bend.

[Northern Yankee]

Exactly...

But George, Dukakis wasn't running with a party that is fracturing apart, and the Clintons trying to control everything.

I don't see any Democrat on the horizon who's going to get 45% of their own Party's vote!

[leadpenny]

I learned my lesson in '92. I helped put Clinton in office by voting for Perot.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Many of the "real conservatives" that say they'll never vote for Bush,didn't vote for him in 2000.

Others are sincerely going to vote for Dean as they are in a snit about one policy or another and feel it is better to have Dean endanger the nation's security,raise taxes,and give our sovereignty to the UN than bend.

I'm always so disgustingly ecstatic to see you here... now, even more than usually, due to the sudden, shocking sanity drought going on 'round these here parts. [::flings self at Meg's feet, weeping::] :)

[capt. norm]

Dukakis was a 'dream opponent' who probably did more to get GHW Bush elected than Bush did himself.

It was so much fun watching Dukakis self-destruct that I almost hated to seem him go.

[MEG33]

There,there..I'm here for you!LOL

[MEG33]

I was worried as Bush 1 did not have the charisma that Reagan had,but Dukakis made it all Ok.I am watching Clark,as goofy as I think he is, to surge a bit.Remember the days when Kerry had it locked?

[MEG33]

Recall Clinton and his Bimbo eruptions prior to New Hampshire?He didn't have a prayer of winning the nomination,much less the Presidency.(the rest is history)

[jmaroneps37]

george will is a horses ass. dukasis is not nearing as
f#@$ed up as how-odd?. how-odd? could actually get less then 40% very easily.
THIS conservative is not at all worried about any rat who will be running against W.
By May, execept in the big media centers of NY LA and DC,there will be very little talk about the presidential election if how-odd? is the nominee.
Those who are worried about lil wessie take note: how-odd? actually does better against W then lil wessie does.
That's because how-odd?'s voters WON'T vote for lil wessie but lil wessie's voters would vote for how-odd?.

[netmilsmom]

ME TOO!

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

Tancredo = Perot For Those Who Didn't Learn the Last Time. :)

[A. Pole]

Each morning, as republicans—bright-eyed after sleep made especially refreshing by dreams of defeating Howard Dean—shave or apply makeup, they should look into their mirrors and say to the images of complacency there: "Read my lips—Michael Dukakis got 45.6 percent of the vote."

I think it depends if Nader runs. He took a lot of votes from Gore so Bush won by a very small margin.

No Nader - no Bush.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

I think it depends if Nader runs.

The 'Rats don't need to sweat a Nader candidacy. As usual, the more short-sighted and self-destructive fringes of our side are already lining up to increase the (potential) margin of a Howard Dean victory by galumphing, lemming-like, over to the Dark Tancredo side of The Force.

This has all the nice, stomach-churning makings of yet another wholly avoidable catastrophe, a la the twin Perot debacles that helped to elect Slick Willie and Queen Hillary to the White House. Which, of course, led to literal mountains of legislation and judicial appointments that continue to legitimately vex honest conservatives, to this very day.

You'd honestly like to believe that our side was genuinely smarter than that this time, wouldn't you...?

[alwaysconservative]

Tancredo = Perot For Those Who Didn't Learn the Last Time.

Perfect! LOL! What a wonderful tag that would make!

[alwaysconservative]

Actually, George Will has kind of gone off the deep end on a few things in recent memory. He was against the recall, sniffing that it was just the actions of the hoi-polloi, the unwashed masses. He utterly failed to disclose his membership on a board where he gets paid $25,000 per meeting when writing a glowing article about the chairman, and now this kind of ersatz dampening of Republican hopes. I'm not sure whether I can trust the usually-articulate Will anymore.

[expatpat]

There's nothing wrong with warning against complacency.

[Kevin Curry]

If Bush loses, he will have only himself to blame.

[q_an_a]

I'm with you on your assesment of "real" conservatives. Chicken little conservatives is more like it.

Please don't let too many Roman Catholics from Mexico come to America; let instead socialists from______, immigrate and fill our schools with their silliness. We want to protect our culture from all those crazy micks and dagos (oh yes that was another time).

When will conservaties learn that they have to get their ideas to work not just scream them on bumper stickers? President Bush is putting ideas to work. Don't like them elect someone with better ideas, don't vote for a commie to prove your point.