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What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."
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| 01/11/2004
| Carlo3b Dad, Chef, Author
Posted on 01/11/2004 2:37:16 AM PST by carlo3b
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To: carlo3b
"For those that are really concerned about these poor people taking the bread out of your mouth, unless you are a pot scrubber, or a garlic picker, you are at little risk.. "
As long as illegals get free medical care, free schooling, and free welfare they ARE taking bread out of my mouth, in the form of taxes.
I have no problem with immigration, I have a problem with illegal aliens.
Your post also lovingly touches upon why people do come to America, and how proud they are to be Americans. Unfortunately, the people coming here to So Cal today have no such pride, only contempt and have no reverence for the goals and ideals that have made America what it is. I see them fly Mexican flags, on the top on American ones, if there is an American one at all. They do not want to be Americans, and that is the difference. They don't even want to learn to speak English, let alone any history of why we are such a great country.
I'm saddened by the political correctness that doesn't even allow us to speak up and say that our way of life is being decimated.
Soon there will be no America for the people who want to be free to come to.
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:00:08 AM PST
by
LaraCroft
(If the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, does the stupid get stupider?)
To: 1rudeboy
Careful with the word "legitimate." If carlo was born here, he is just as legitimate as you are. Your issue is with his parents. And boy, is THAT ever a problem that needs fixing! The original law was never intended to create "anchor babies" for illegal immigrants. But if a pregnant illegal can make it to an American hospital in time, not only is the baby automatically an American citizen but hospital expenses are paid by generous American taxpayers. Then the process of chain immigration begins. Am I the only one who sees something wrong with that?
To: SAMWolf
Good morning Sam, aha those DP satcalls, now that was helpful in assimilating into the mainstream.. My mother, and grandmother would put "MR SANDMAN" on a turntable and slowly turn the record so we, my cousin and I, could hear and repeat the words without an Italian accent, so no one would know we were more of those damned Displaced Pion's, I mean persons.
We were especially singled out to get our greasy asses out of the nice pure neighborhoods.. Perhaps that was my initial aversion to the Atkins Diet, all of the fried food.. But that was the good old days.. sigh.. :)
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:07:40 AM PST
by
carlo3b
(http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
To: carlo3b
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:07:50 AM PST
by
LaraCroft
(If the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, does the stupid get stupider?)
To: carlo3b
Morning Carlo!
This Immigration thing is Ummm...Kind of controversial.
Immigration made this country, but many are upset by the open door policies that are being passed.
I have no problems with legal immigrants. If Vietnamese had never immigrated here I wouldn't have found Pho!
I think most of us are frightened by change, some are uneasy with folks that are different,and I personally don't like the overcrowding of the country, But change occurs, people are different and the world is getting smaller.
On a more joyful note, I am preparing garlic rosemary dijon free range lamb chops with Mediterranean potatoes and greek salad for yummies today ;^)
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:08:28 AM PST
by
mylife
To: Delta-Tango
The platitude "nation of immigrants" is a bit of canard.
In the first place, we're more akin to a "nation of settlers", since fortified by several waves of immigration, which in periods of low immigration, were assimilated into a common American culture.
The problem with today's population transfers is that the wave pattern is broken. Waves have ends. With the deluge of population transfers from the third world begun with Ted Kennedy's 1965 chain-migration law, on the other hand, there is no end in sight. If there is going to be an end or ebb, when will that be? When will the period of assimilation begin? The answer under the Bush plan, of course, is never.
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:08:37 AM PST
by
dagnabbit
(Tell Bush what to do with his Mexico Merger - Write in Tancredo in your State's primary)
To: carlo3b
Carlo, I finally broke the 235 plateau this morning. Between Adkins and Tae Kwon Do, the old bod is pulling together!
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:12:10 AM PST
by
Redleg Duke
(Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: carlo3b
Thank you so much for your wonderful essay!
I generally stay away from all immigration related threads because of my own experience. Half of my family is Hispanic and I don't know, wouldn't ask, don't care if they are descendants of illegals or legals. All members of my family are spiritually minded, hard-working, patriotic and independent. IMHO, that is what matters.
To: carlo3b
My maternal grandparents came through Ellis Island and went on to lead productive lives much as the rest of the family.But Carlo there are those who choose to skirt the legal immigration system in this country.They are doing a great disservice to the immigrants who want to come here legally. You don't hear the heated debates going on about legal immigration,only illegal.If the first thing you do when coming to this country is break the law,then you are already off to a bad start.Give those immigrants who legally come here the credit,they respect the laws and are willing to do things the right way.
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:16:15 AM PST
by
tapatio
(I would rather see the United States respected than loved by other nations)
To: carlo3b
What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..." A massive oversupply.
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:17:46 AM PST
by
neutrino
(Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
To: dawn53
But if you'll follow the links on this page, and choose Mexico as your nation of origin, you'll see that a Mexican will not be allowed to seek a green card, at least not at this time.Mexicans get more green cards than any other nationality. They have for years.
Check the stats pages at the DHS Immigration website. In 2002 there were 219,000 green cards handed over to Mexican nationals, more than any other nationality. India was next at about 70,000.
The site and program you cited was just for the "Diversity Visa Lottery", which only hands out 50,000 visas per year worldwide. Very high immigration source nationalities are excluded from that limited program, which is why Mexico, India, etc do not appear on that website's list.
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:26:14 AM PST
by
dagnabbit
(Tell Bush what to do with his Mexico Merger - Write in Tancredo in your State's primary)
To: carlo3b
My mom taught herself English by reading the newspapers, specifically Ann landers. I still kid her about it.
My parents always felt there was no shame in being a DP, it's not like you volunteered for the title. Sounds like we both had to put up with the "new people in the neighborhood" crap when we were younger. Still, I think I ended up better for it in the long run, made me appreciate what we have even more, because we had to earn it rather than having handed to us.
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:26:52 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Ted Kennedy's Bumper Sticker: My other car is underwater.)
To: dennisw
Your view of illegal immigration is highly colored by you working with them. Indeed I am more than biased by my personal experiences, but I am not without compassion for the rest of us taxpayers.. The overwhelming number of these unfortunate folks, never see a government check or visit a doctor because of fear of being caught. That doesn't make it right, and I do concur.. my post was only to draw some attention to a second side of this issue.. an issue that I think is being used more to alienate Bush voters than solve legitimate problems..
But to take another point that you made.. Shut down restaurants and whatever if we need low-level workers, is a more of the problem with this hot button issue.. Of the hundreds of workers that my company employed for over 20 years, less than 5% of our workforce was exposed to any need of lower standard skills. The 95% of workers were handsomely compensated and more than happy to have steady work to support their families.. I wish we would have been able to have kept the Steel Mills at work much the same way.. Hundreds of thousands of workers would have had better incomes had that prevailed.. JUST A THOUGHT..
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:27:17 AM PST
by
carlo3b
(http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
To: carlo3b
911 Happened, unfortunately
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:27:25 AM PST
by
Leatherneck_MT
(Good night Chesty, wherever you may be.)
To: SAMWolf
Sam I grew up on Taylor and Halstead on the lower east side of Chicago, "Little Italy", then moved to Polk and St.Louis across from the Sears Headquarters where many of my family worked, then to the back-of-the-yards, in Daley's neighborhood.. Where did you grow up in Chicago?
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:33:12 AM PST
by
carlo3b
(http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
To: neutrino
What ever happened to "Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free..."
A massive oversupply. Nail head, meet hammer.
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:35:56 AM PST
by
dagnabbit
(Tell Bush what to do with his Mexico Merger - Write in Tancredo in your State's primary)
To: carlo3b
Division and Ashland at first and then at Rockwell and North. The Humboldt neighborhood. The near northwest side.
It was pretty much a Polish-Italian neighborhood in the 50's.
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:38:34 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Ted Kennedy's Bumper Sticker: My other car is underwater.)
To: cyborg
He'll need it the way most immigration threads have been going these days :( That's why they were prescribed as needed...:)
-Dr. jellybean
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posted on
01/11/2004 10:39:43 AM PST
by
jellybean
(Taglines are easy...it's filling in the reply box that takes thought. :)
To: 1rudeboy
Careful with the word "legitimate." If carlo was born here, he is just as legitimate as you are. Your issue is with his parents. Fair enough, but the very law that you reference is a big reason so many pregnant illegals come here. Free handouts, free medical care, a legal door opens when your baby is a citizen by birth. Is there any good reason to continue that policy? I can't think of one. Parental citizenship should be a requirement.
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posted on
01/11/2004 11:00:09 AM PST
by
ovrtaxt
(You got an extra copy of NAFTA? I'm like totally out of toilet paper.)
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