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To: Destro
Mr. Destro, do you realize that you are a rather abrupt and rude person? Does your need to feel correct outweigh your ability to be civil?

I would hardly consider Japan a "Western" democracy when it had an Emperor who was worshiped as a God. Your statement was quite declarative that we never built democracies. I gave a couple good examples of countries in which we did revert, or reinvigorate democracies. You may split hairs if you'd like, but I still submit that without the largess of the United States, as well as the blood we shed, neither Germany or Japan would resemble anything like the democracies they are today.

Given that this thread was discussing the anti-war rantings of a radio talk show host regarding Iraq, I think that it is a reasonable comparison. If that is a waste of your time, then so be it.

199 posted on 01/11/2004 11:43:50 AM PST by GunnyB (Once a Marine, Always a Marine)
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To: GunnyB
And England was a democracy where their King was the head of the Church of England? I wonder how the Athenians got away with calling their city-state a democracy with all those pagan gods (hell the city was dedicated to Athena).

Again, the USA was able to reintroduce democracy to Japan and Germany and it was able to do so because both those nations already were familiar with democracy and the concept of it.

The USA did not have to build a foundation for democracy because a foundation already existed.

What I said was that we (the USA) have never been able to build into any nation the foundations for democract that need to be in place before a democratic structure can be built.

Lastly I blame the internet for the rude part. Tone does not translate well on the net. But that does not negate the fact that your version of Japanese history is way wrong.

200 posted on 01/11/2004 12:03:16 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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