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To: Jeff Head
Due to mortal human nature, that need will not be extinguished IMHO until the Savior returns to this earth.

Just so, though of course the tools for such purposes evolve and change. In modern terms, I can reasonably expect that our Savior's advice about selling your cloak to obtain a good sword might now be expressed as advice to obtain a good rifle or shotgun: He that hath no Garand or Kalishnikov had best get ahold of some such.

Yet I think it still worthwhile to at least have an edged fighting tool or two around. Perhaps it has to do with my Nordic/Viking ancestors; perhaps it's that religious advice, or perhaps a few memories from times past when my 20-round magazines were down to the last three or four.

Maybe it's a bit of all of the above. But I think I'll cover both approaches.

And as for that old Liberator pistol design, or that of the Sten, there are of course more modern materials and processes for such things, too. And I've been thinking in those directions....


60 posted on 01/10/2004 11:36:15 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy; JOAT
1) Highly agree with post # 60. A bayonet-capable rifle is an excellent thing...especially if on a rifle designed not to bend its barrel when used ! Therefore...Muttly really likes his '03 and 98Ks. Bayonets make nice hunting/camping knives too...as my Daddy taught me by example.

Funny thing about that Master Lock photo, and the Liberator. Master used to run a t.v. commercial with a man shooting the lock in the center, with a rifle. Well...if he shot it on the side, where it locks the hasp in...open ! One can wail on the largest Master lock with a hammer, especially Muttly-favorite hand sledge or other persuader...and no key needed again. They do slow down most thieves, though.

Also wholeheartedly agree with Jeff's assessment about humans being this way until "fixed," and that only One can and will do that. Gives me great peace to know that all these preparations are prudent...but are also, as am I at ALL times, in the hands of the merciful and kind Creator...so hopefully all this is an interesting and useful hobby.

2) If resupply is necessary, through unpleasant means...the source of 9mm and 7.62x39 would more likely be the local drug and pitbull enthusiasts..who hoard such things for macho points...and coincident with that...have false confidence in them to protect...hide behind. They spray and pray, because they know no better, have a reason for concealing their firearms ownership therefore never practicing...and it is also childish bravado. At such times, the truly Muttly get "Wild Bill Hickock calm" and consciously place their shot...like Alvin York.
79 posted on 01/10/2004 12:33:57 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("No jockey was ever ruled "Off" for trying." - W. C. Fields)
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To: archy; JOAT
1) Highly agree with post # 60. A bayonet-capable rifle is an excellent thing...especially if on a rifle designed not to bend its barrel when used ! Therefore...Muttly really likes his '03 and 98Ks. Bayonets make nice hunting/camping knives too...as my Daddy taught me by example.

Funny thing about that Master Lock photo, and the Liberator. Master used to run a t.v. commercial with a man shooting the lock in the center, with a rifle. Well...if he shot it on the side, where it locks the hasp in...open ! One can wail on the largest Master lock with a hammer, especially Muttly-favorite hand sledge or other persuader...and no key needed again. They do slow down most thieves, though.

Also wholeheartedly agree with Jeff's assessment about humans being this way until "fixed," and that only One can and will do that. Gives me great peace to know that all these preparations are prudent...but are also, as am I at ALL times, in the hands of the merciful and kind Creator...so hopefully all this is an interesting and useful hobby.

2) If resupply is necessary, through unpleasant means...the source of 9mm and 7.62x39 would more likely be the local drug and pitbull enthusiasts..who hoard such things for macho points...and coincident with that...have false confidence in them to protect...hide behind. They spray and pray, because they know no better, have a reason for concealing their firearms ownership therefore never practicing...and it is also childish bravado. At such times, the truly Muttly get "Wild Bill Hickock calm" and consciously place their shot...like Alvin York.
81 posted on 01/10/2004 12:36:20 PM PST by PoorMuttly ("No jockey was ever ruled "Off" for trying." - W. C. Fields)
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