[tacticalogic]

I believe that's know as "begging the question".

[robertpaulsen]

I'd list my cites, but they would do no good with you. You believe the second amendment applies to the states and will not be swayed by the facts.

Here's the problem. The citizens of California who think the way you do believe that the second amendment protects their RKBA. One day they will wake up without their guns and wonder what happened. If they had listened to you, it's now too late.

The time is now, there is no later, for the citizens of California to write an RKBA into their state constitution.