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To: from this machine
Illegal immigration is a problem but here is the flip side of the coin, i.e. we created this mess with the government welfare state.

1. In South Dallas, thousands sit on their lazy asses doing absolutely nothing except living off the government dime (a little drug dealing, prostitution, robbery, etc.) while waiting for some sleazeball trial lawyer to win their frivolous shakedown suits against some doctor, manufacturer, or the local McDonalds for making them too fat.

2. In the rural areas surrounding Dallas, the lower class sits on its collective ass while drawing worker's comp., unemployment comp., or waiting for that personal injury suit to settle. However, they're happy to take that money to blow on cigarettes, the lotto, and Friday and Saturday nights out drinkin' and two-steppin'.

3. In North Dallas, Plano, Frisco, etc., tens of thousands of jobs paying $8 to $15 an hour are filled by illegal immigrants from Mexico, Central and South America. Why? Because the people in #1 and #2 above are "too good" for these types of jobs. While the professional victims are crying about circumstances the immigrants are filling positions for which the "victims" simply won't even take the time to complete an application or interview.

I have no problem with a legal guest worker program provided (a) they are not entitled to welfare and other government handouts, (b) they cannot bring kids with them to burden the public school system, (c) they cannot marry a U.S. citizen without a rigorous background check (at their expense) to ensure that the marriage is not a fraud, (d) any children born in the U.S. are not entitled to automatic U.S. citizenship, (e) a guest worker cannot bring either friends or family to the U.S., (f) there is a 25-year moratorium on non-English speaking immigrants while assimilation occurs, (g) there is an effective deportation system in place, and (h) immigration is based solely on what the immigrant can bring to the U.S. in terms of education, skills, and assets. As for the guest worker program, I'd require Mexico to abandon Spanish as its official language and make English a mandatory second language in its school system. I'd also require Mexico to abandon its no-extradition policy that it uses with glee to harbor fugitives from U.S. justice.

However, I do have a BIG problem with lazy-ass no account native born trash of all races and ethnic backgrounds who live off of the taxpayer while whining about immigrants.
11 posted on 01/10/2004 6:38:30 AM PST by Young Rhino (http://www.artofdivorce.com)
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To: Young Rhino
I have no problem with a legal guest worker program provided (a) they are not entitled to welfare and other government handouts, (b) they cannot bring kids with them to burden the public school system, (c) they cannot marry a U.S. citizen without a rigorous background check (at their expense) to ensure that the marriage is not a fraud, (d) any children born in the U.S. are not entitled to automatic U.S. citizenship, (e) a guest worker cannot bring either friends or family to the U.S., (f) there is a 25-year moratorium on non-English speaking immigrants while assimilation occurs, (g) there is an effective deportation system in place, and (h) immigration is based solely on what the immigrant can bring to the U.S. in terms of education, skills, and assets. As for the guest worker program, I'd require Mexico to abandon Spanish as its official language and make English a mandatory second language in its school system. I'd also require Mexico to abandon its no-extradition policy that it uses with glee to harbor fugitives from U.S. justice.

From your lips to Bush's ear. Seriously, young fellow, who would disagree with this? So why ain't it happening.

BTW, I was going to work this morning, but Burger King is having a two-fer special, and so is Bud Lite on the 12-pack. Jerry Springer is coming on cable, and I have to wait for a call from my lawyer about that hot coffee I spilled in my lap, Darlene is coming over with some dyn-o-mite ganja and then driving me to down to the junkyard to pick up a starter for the Malibu.

Jesus! Some damn Mexican just won the Lotto!!!

33 posted on 01/10/2004 7:02:11 AM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Young Rhino
The bible says those that won't work should not eat. Nothing like an empty belly to motivate.
74 posted on 01/10/2004 9:07:46 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Young Rhino
A legal "guest worker" program is a very bad idea. It will create a population of defacto second-class citizens. This is absolute poison to a free republic and if we allow it we will never recover from it.

Let's get rid of the welfare state, eject every illegal and close the border.
95 posted on 01/10/2004 10:26:42 AM PST by Dan Evans
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To: Young Rhino
I have no problem with a legal guest worker program provided (a) they are not entitled to welfare and other government handouts, (b) they cannot bring kids with them to burden the public school system, (c) they cannot marry a U.S. citizen without a rigorous background check (at their expense) to ensure that the marriage is not a fraud, (d) any children born in the U.S. are not entitled to automatic U.S. citizenship, (e) a guest worker cannot bring either friends or family to the U.S., (f) there is a 25-year moratorium on non-English speaking immigrants while assimilation occurs, (g) there is an effective deportation system in place, and (h) immigration is based solely on what the immigrant can bring to the U.S. in terms of education, skills, and assets. As for the guest worker program, I'd require Mexico to abandon Spanish as its official language and make English a mandatory second language in its school system. I'd also require Mexico to abandon its no-extradition policy that it uses with glee to harbor fugitives from U.S. justice.

This brings up something that I've wondered about for a very long time. I'm all in favor of immigration: I wouldn't be here without it. But in the past, you had to have financial sponsors to get into the country, or prove that you had a trade that would allow you to support yourself. And you couldn't bring your dependants with you, without sponsorship.

My grandfather came to the US in the late 1920's, and by 1934, had brought over his 2 minor children from Poland, but by the time he could afford to bring the rest of his family over, it was 1939, and too late. How is it now that people who come into the country are immediately elligible for government services and welfare?

There should be a minimum waiting period of having to pay into the system before you can begin to "reap the benefits" of the work of others.

Mark

116 posted on 01/10/2004 12:17:34 PM PST by MarkL (It's the Chief's Second Season! See you in the Playoffs!)
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To: Young Rhino
Is it possible that some of the indigent poor Americans refuse to work because of illegal immigration?
Illegal immigration lowers wages, especially in low-skill jobs. Why work at $5.50/hour without benefits if you can get the same from the government for doing nothing?
140 posted on 01/11/2004 12:03:24 AM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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