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To: Turbo Pig; Palladin; cynicom
"The ones that die on the battlefield, whether it is in a slum in Bagdhad, a dirty field in Afhganistan, or an office in the Pentagon have sacrificed everything. "

Turbo Pig, In general, that’s false. To make a sacrifice, a trade, you have to make the decision. In most cases, someone else made the decision to end their lives. There’s a “sacrifice” in everything we do. If we choose one path, we sacrifice the fruits of another. The difference with the military in general is in degree. Few in the military who died actually made a decision to sacrifice their lives for ideological reasons, but many of them did risk their lives for that.

The vast majority of those who actually choose to die do so for their buddies, their team, not wanting to let them down. That’s what has been reported from debriefings in a study after the battle for Tarawa in which a large number of Marines chose to wade into probable death against enemy crossfire rather than return toward their ship.

Recognizing this is not a slam on the bravery of those who risk death, but a recognition of the nature of war, of sacrifice and is a testament to the honorable character and rational nature of those who serve to defend our nation.

Palladin, You’re not justified in asking another “what sacrifices have you made for your country lately”. It’s self righteous, presuming the authority to set standards for another on such a personal issue, like asking what one has done to love their wife, or how much one donates to charity.

cynicom, Maybe as you suggest this isn’t such a significant misuse of language. Maybe I’m just sensitive to it because I’ve been involved in a debate with someone who redefined words to promote his objective.

54 posted on 01/11/2004 11:29:53 AM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
Look up sacrifice in the dictionary. It reads in part: "Forfeiture of something highly valued for the sake of one considered to have a greater value or claim".

Laying down their lives for "the mission", or "my buddy", or "God and country" fall under the above definition. Subjugating yourself on a daily basis in the defense of the country falls under the above definition.

If the Constitution did not say that people have the right to have "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", I might buy into what you are saying. By simply saying "they take risks", you cheapen their lives and actions.
55 posted on 01/11/2004 2:23:10 PM PST by Turbo Pig (If They Don't Respect US, They Should At Least Fear US.)
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