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Posted on 01/09/2004 8:58:09 PM PST by quidnunc
Imagine a person 10 times as determined as you are. Picture a guy who will wade across rivers, brave 120-degree boxcars and face vicious smugglers and murderous vigilantes — all to get a job picking fruit for 10 hours a day. That person is the illegal immigrant. Let's call him Sam. This whole immigration debate is about him, the choices he faces and the way he responds.
One thing we know about Sam: he will get here. Between 1986 and 1998, Congress increased the Border Patrol's budget sixfold. Over that time the number of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. doubled, to eight million. Getting across that border is Sam's shot at a decent future. Maybe his whole family depends upon him. He will not be herded away like a lamb.
At the moment, Sam lives in the shadows of society. But this week, President Bush proposed an immigration reform plan that would offer him a new set of choices.
Under the Bush plan, Sam could become a visible member of society with legal documentation. He could get a driver's license. He could benefit from worker protection laws, and possibly see his wages rise. He could open a bank account, which would let him ship money back home without having to pay huge fees. As Dan Griswold of the Cato Institute has shown, he would be much more likely to invest in himself through worker training.
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Imagine a person 10 times as determined as you are. Picture a guy who will wade across rivers, brave 120-degree boxcars and face vicious smugglers and murderous vigilantes — all to get a job picking fruit for 10 hours a day.
Imagine a truckload of these people headed toward the polls on election day. Imagine who they will vote for. Imagine the southwest becoming a third world jungle.
"If we don't hustle and stay on our toes, that guy is our son's Landlord."
They're here, you're not going to deport them. You're going to live with them. If our society is to survive, it will assimilate them. If is doesn't, people will remember our Greatness.
I have the hope that our Society will grow and survive with a Latin (and Brazilian and Irish and Russian) flavor. The same stuff has been said about every ethnic and Immigrant group since this Great Nation was founded, by Trespassers. Threatening Genocide is not a way to endear yourself to an emerging Power Group.
If you vote Democrat or Third Party because you're mad at Bush for trying to do something, the future just gets here faster. Of course, some of these "Guest Workers" might just NOT be in favor of Abortion on demand and Gay Marriage and be pro-family, but you're going to show those RINO's, right?
Good to see CATO in there as well. I knew I sent them money for some reason.
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I believe it will, the naysayers hysterics notwithstanding.
Threatening Genocide is not a way to endear yourself to an emerging Power Group.
No serious individual or organization is threatening genocide. Erecting and knocking down strawmen does not endear you to the people you're trying to convince.
So Sam reads the fine print on Bush's blue card proposal --- the part that discusses how the blue card is good for 3 years and Sam says "What??, I walked 200 miles in 110 degree desert heat, worked all these 2 years and got my family used to more money than they ever dreamed of, now they're asking me to tell them where I'm living, who I'm working for, they'll do a background check and in 3 years they'll come and send me back home??? No way Jose!"
And besides it won't be 8 million folks then, but 25 or 30 million, or who knows what, since there is absolutely no limit on how many people can pour into this country (with families) to sell their labor at their home country's price.
This is not the first call I've gotten on this - I've had several.
Each one are up in arms over utter disgust, disbelief, and awe.
Each are Republicans who have voted party line an average of forty to fifty years.
Each agree on one thing: Bush lost a minimum of 10% of his support in one fell swoop. In one day he has successfully manged to do the near impossible - alienate at least 25% of ALL Republicans.
Hell hath no fury like a Republican scorned.
"No serious individual or organization is threatening genocide. Erecting and knocking down strawmen does not endear you to the people you're trying to convince."
Then why are people posting things like, what we need is a "Thermonuclear" solution to this problem. Or the people suggesting that we could easily have a mass deportation of 10-12 Million people? Or the shooting of men, women and children trying to cross the border? I may have attacked a strawman, but I certainly didn't erect it, sir. It's big, there in plain sight for all, including our enemies, to see, and it's ugly.
Many of the posted comments on this topic are bordering on outright Racism and you know it.
As for trying to "convince" people, I gave that up years ago. I gave up trying to "convince" fanatics before that. I am just trying to figure out what kind of person would openly declare support for a Socialist Democrat just because my President; who has done more to advance the "Conservative" cause than any man since Ronald Reagan; decides to suggest a solution to our Illegal Immigrant problem. I think I know now. I also think I know a little bit more about what kind of people inhabit the "fringe" where the Strawmen live.
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