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To: McGavin999
No, he just knows that a certain type of conservative stayed home in the 2000 election and he's learned he can't count on them. Staying home in the 2004 election will be nothing new to them.

We have two major Republican clubs here in Cochise County, Arizona. Both fought hard for Bush in 2000. Many of those same people now plan to leave the top portion of their ballot blank. This is a meltdown at grassroots level.

This county is right on the border, so we have to deal personally with the damages from illegal immigration every day. It isn't a hypothetical situation or something we see in passing on Fox News. To us, this proposal is a complete sell out on the one issue that most directly affects us and we don't care what "strategerie" reasons were behind it.

By the way, 30% of the local population is of Mexican descent and they are not thrilled with this proposal. Their take is that it is either an empty shot at vote pandering or an attempt at assuring an endless supply of semi-indentured servants.

On Saturday, January 17th, both clubs are holding a combined dinner meeting. The speaker and guest of honor is Tom Tancredo.

50 posted on 01/09/2004 9:43:52 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
What do you think these two groups will do?

will they just stay home and not vote? or will they debate the issue and make suggestions to their elected officials who probably know less than they do about the issue?

All of here have the same choices to make, but flame wars will never get us anywhere. As we speak there is legislation in Congress written by John McCain, It will never see the House floor for debate, Delay has said as much, What the Senate does is a coin toss, most of them 100 losers do not have a spine.

I see this whole thing as an opportunity to get involved early before those lobbyist whores have a chance to get bought off.

If and when a piece of legislation heads to the floor for debate we need to act as a team to influence that debate, but irrational calls for mass deportation will never see the light of day, because it's not a rational approach to a problem this large.

You and whoever can flame me if you like, but winning a flame war on the INTERNET is much like winning a gold medal at the special Olympics, in the end you're still a retard :-)

56 posted on 01/09/2004 9:55:42 PM PST by MJY1288 (WITHOUT DOUBLE STANDARDS, LIBERALS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY !)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
"This is a meltdown at grassroots level."

8. Later this month President Bush will give his State of the Union Address to the nation. What topic are you most interested in hearing the president talk about during his speech? (OPEN ENDED)

The economy/jobs 35%
Iraq 17
Terrorism 10
Health Care 4
Medicare/
prescription Drugs
4
Education 3
Immigration/
illegal aliens
2
Social Security 2
Taxes 2
Budget Deficit 1
Other 5
None 6
Not sure 9

That grass don't have very deep roots.

60 posted on 01/09/2004 9:59:30 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder
The speaker and guest of honor is Tom Tancredo.

Tell him for all of us that were behind him.

BTW. Glad your back.

78 posted on 01/09/2004 10:16:15 PM PST by Missouri
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To: JackelopeBreeder
or an attempt at assuring an endless supply of semi-indentured servants.

I'm sure they'll be screaming "apartied" if they dont get enough of what they want.

83 posted on 01/09/2004 10:20:23 PM PST by PuNcH
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To: JackelopeBreeder
This is a meltdown at grassroots level.

Bump.

249 posted on 01/10/2004 5:57:55 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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