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America To Pull Its Tank Units Out Of Germany
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 1-10-2004 | David Rennie

Posted on 01/09/2004 5:05:13 PM PST by blam

America to pull its tank units out of Germany

By David Rennie in Washington
(Filed: 10/01/2004)

The United States plans to withdraw its heavy armoured formations from Germany next year, in the largest reshaping of the European military landscape since the end of the Cold War, it emerged yesterday.

The historic plans are part of a drive to turn the American military into a more flexible, rapid reaction force.

They have been in gestation since long before the Iraq war, and Washington officials insist they are not punishing Germany for opposing the toppling of Saddam Hussein.

The decision to move all US armour home marks the end of the Cold War era when huge tank armies backed by millions of troops and thousands of aircraft readied for war in the heart of Europe.

Following the withdrawal of Russian troops from Germany, in 1994, America's pull-out would leave Britain the last foreign power with heavy armour on the plains of Germany. Britain maintains a force of some 23,000 troops there.

Douglas Feith, the Pentagon's top policy official, told German counterparts last month that America will start pulling out heavy ground forces late next year, eventually withdrawing up to 40,000 men from Germany by 2006, The Wall Street Journal reported.

Units will return to the US, although Washington plans new bases in Poland, Bulgaria and the Baltic States through which troops would move to future trouble spots.

Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, has led an aggressive campaign to reshape the military for the new, less predictable, conflicts of the war on terror.

The changes aim to close many of the sprawling bases that span the globe from Germany to South Korea - many of them mini-Americas, complete with schools, hospitals, shopping centres and suburban housing estates.

Instead, Mr Rumsfeld wants troops to rotate through a global network of small bases, deploying to hot spots at short notice, and picking up equipment and supplies pre-positioned at storage sites.

Although many Germans will cheer the departure, there is no concealing the impact the American pull-out will have on their nation, politically, economically and even psychologically.

The rumble of American armour has been a backdrop to life in Germany since 1945. The two units earmarked for withdrawal - the 1st Armoured Division and the 1st Infantry Division - are steeped in European history.

The "Old Ironsides", as the 1st Armoured is known, landed in North Africa in 1942, fought German forces the length of Italy, and entered Germany as part of the allied occupation in 1945.

The "Big Red One", or 1st Infantry, fought the Kaiser's armies in the First World War under General Pershing, and helped drive Hitler's troops from France and Belgium.

Some important US facilities will remain in Germany, including the giant Ramstein air base, the US European Command headquarters in Stuttgart and a military hospital near Hamburg.

Russia has raised concerns about the arrival of large numbers of US troops in Poland and the Baltic states, ostensibly because such arrivals might violate Cold War era treaties on American troop strengths in Europe.

The Pentagon believes that careful juggling of European bases will avoid breaking those treaties.


TOPICS: Germany; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: america; armor; bigredone; dod; feith; germany; militarybases; newnwo; oldironsides; out; pull; tanks; transformation; troopmovement; usarmy
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1 posted on 01/09/2004 5:05:13 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
Yahooo!
2 posted on 01/09/2004 5:09:18 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: All

"Facts are stubborn things, and whatever may be our
wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions,
they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
- John Adams -


Make your statement.


3 posted on 01/09/2004 5:09:51 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Freepers post from sun to sun, but a fundraiser bot's work is never done.)
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To: blam
It's about time!!...should have been started on a small scale years ago..we'd be out of there now
4 posted on 01/09/2004 5:11:59 PM PST by M-cubed
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To: blam
Pull the tanks out of Germany? But, what if Napoleon . . .. Never mind, this is the New Europe.
5 posted on 01/09/2004 5:15:17 PM PST by RightWhale (How many technological objections will be raised?)
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To: blam
But which direction should the tanks deployed to Poland point (east of west)?
6 posted on 01/09/2004 5:18:08 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: blam
Cool. It is time to abandon old Europe and embrace new Europe. Stay close with Britain and tell the rest of the Euro-scum to go pound sand.
7 posted on 01/09/2004 5:20:42 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: blam
They have been in gestation since long before the Iraq war, and Washington officials insist they are not punishing Germany for opposing the toppling of Saddam Hussein.

And if you buy that, I've got a real bargain for you!

8 posted on 01/09/2004 5:22:39 PM PST by Faraday
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To: RightWhale
It will be interesting to see how they allocate troops to Eastern Europe. If they just move them over there, or move the all thet anks over there and keep three or four primed Brigade Combat Teams in places like Poland, and the Russians do not make much noise it could mean that we are actually working out a AndRussia is in on it.

Now the question is: does Germany go nuclear?

Just what are we signaling here?

9 posted on 01/09/2004 5:23:44 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: blam
Bout time.
10 posted on 01/09/2004 5:24:43 PM PST by Soulfull
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To: CasearianDaoist
sorry Working out=working out a containment strategy for France and Germany.
11 posted on 01/09/2004 5:25:12 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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To: blam
Good timing. Let's take those tank divisions and set them up along the Mexican-American border...

Oops -- no we can't do that. That might make us appear serious about enforcing the border from the ongoing illegal invasion.

12 posted on 01/09/2004 5:25:14 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: blam
Some important US facilities will remain in Germany, including the giant Ramstein air base

No. I insist we fold this up and take this home.

Is every journalist rawly incompetent, or what?

13 posted on 01/09/2004 5:25:48 PM PST by Lazamataz (I slam, you slam, we all slam, for Islam !)
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To: CasearianDaoist
It would be up to the main recipents of German attention in WW II: Poland and France. Poland is probably okay with this in the present situation. France probably doesn't care.
14 posted on 01/09/2004 5:26:32 PM PST by RightWhale (How many technological objections will be raised?)
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To: blam
Washington officials insist they are not punishing Germany

Darn, I was hoping this was to punish the nazi slugs.

15 posted on 01/09/2004 5:29:40 PM PST by kentuckyusa
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To: blam
Units will return to the US, although Washington plans new bases in Poland, Bulgaria and the Baltic States through which troops would move to future trouble spots.

I hope Satan has a subscription to the Telegraph, so he can give Joe Stalin the news.

16 posted on 01/09/2004 5:30:55 PM PST by Argus
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To: blam
Without Reforger Germany is going to have to charge their own taxpayers to maintain their roads!
17 posted on 01/09/2004 5:42:10 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Lazamataz
...Well, I own a small-town paper, and I think IM a little compit...er, competi....er, oh, never mind!
18 posted on 01/09/2004 5:44:48 PM PST by SkipLethal
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To: Britton J Wingfield
ping :)
19 posted on 01/09/2004 5:51:58 PM PST by cateizgr8
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To: RightWhale
Well I think that the French would be quite disturbed if they thought they could not control the Germans, which of course they cannot (though I doubt it occurred to Chirac that his silliness might have awaken a "sleep bridge-troll," as it were, by encouraging an assertive Germany under his wing.) France is currently the only nuclear power on the Continent, a point that they are insistent on making in every conversation of this sort. I imagine that they will start howling at the moon in Paris if Berlin starts building a nuclear triad. The nations that would be quite upset would be Russia, the UK and Italy, IMHO.

It will be interesting to see what happens if the SDS and the Greens get thrown out this year, and Schroeder is left hanging until 06. If the CDC comes back into power and Bush is reelected then they may just kiss and makeup, and then this is all mostly theater. Still, it will be pleasant to see the Euros actually face up to the real implications of a fed up USA. I almost think it never occurred to them what the actual implications were.

20 posted on 01/09/2004 5:57:20 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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