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We need to examine the president's amnesty proposal real close: It's politically brilliant and morally repugnant.

1. This will sway many Hispanic voters to vote Rep., and also Cubans, Filipinos, Chinese, etc. Can he swing a million in California? Maybe not, so CA may not be in play, but look at NM, OR, and WA where he lost with narrow margins. These could easily be in play and it would seal FL.

2. Bush acknowledges that the illegal problem is politically unsolvable, so he makes this proposal which will "solve" the problem for the next 5-10 years and drop it on the next president's lap. It is a typical political ploy.

3. THERE IS A REAL STEALTH TAX HIKE. Yes. Make these people "legal". Pay them at least a minimum wage. COLLECT SS taxes, make them PAY INCOME TAXES. It chips away at the deficit and puts off the SS doomsday a little. Nifty

4. More Federal Employees. Imagine having 20 million people to watch. Who's going to watch them? AFSCME will love it.

Politically, it's a winner. The right will vote for him anyway, just like the wacko leftists voted for Clinton. Do you really want Dean as president (or any of the others)? Bush doesn't want to build an iron curtain on the Mexican border, but that is the only way to stop the illegals from coming here. So make them legal and allow them to bring their families. What a cheap way to buy votes.

The real losers: Those people who want to come here and are doing it the right and legal way. They get the shaft, but, again, they don't vote.

Terrorists will come anyway. If there are 20 or 40 million illegals here already, what's a handful of Islamoterrorists? They won't care if they are legal or not. The INS will be too busy monitoring the newly "legal" illegals to find these wackos. Our security will get worse, but not for any of the reasons you hear all over the talk shows.

The winners. The high tech. security companies with all the advanced doodads. We got to watch 20 or 40 million "legal" illegals.

I don't have the answer and I doubt that any of you do. Bush took the politically expedient way out as many pols do. But he did not even try to tackle the mess. I guess that's too much to expect.
104 posted on 01/09/2004 2:26:11 PM PST by furball4paws (Never less alone than when wholely alone; never less idle than when wholely idle.)
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To: furball4paws
We need to examine the president's amnesty proposal real close: It's politically brilliant and morally repugnant.

Morally repugnant?

Breaking the law is "immoral", but is it not immoral to rip people from the jobs they hold by their own sweat and send them away merely because we didn't stop them at the border years ago?

That was OUR failure, not theirs.

As for it being unfair to immigrants who "play by the rules". It's high time we changed those rules and allwed all comers into this country.

One of the few welfare programs I'd like to see is free English classes for all of them.

Without immigrants, I think it's been shown that we'd already have a negative population growth. If you want to see a breakdown in society, just wait till there's not enough young people to support the old. And even worse, check out what will happen as companies stop growing. The result would be economic disaster.

We NEED people coming into America. Either that, or pursuade more folks to have more babies.

131 posted on 01/09/2004 2:51:46 PM PST by narby (McGovern lost in 72 - and launched the left's takover of the Dem party)
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For some conservatives, this amnesty will snap it. They may just get on their hind legs and fight, for huge majorities have repeatedly registered opposition to any amnesty for illegal aliens. How is the president helped by a bloody battle with his political base in an election year?
134 posted on 01/09/2004 2:53:39 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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