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Bush & Immigration Reform
The Federalist Newsletter
| 1-9-04
| The Federalist Staff
Posted on 01/09/2004 12:20:07 PM PST by FlyLow
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01/09/2004 12:20:07 PM PST
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FlyLow
To: FlyLow
Thanks.
A logical, well-reasoned article. Something sorely needed amid the hysteria of the moment.
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01/09/2004 12:25:56 PM PST
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To: FlyLow
We should learn from Germany's experience with 'guest workers'. Funny, but the Turks aren't going home like they're supposed to. Why should we expect anything different here? - especially when our government has an established track record of complete and utter failure in this matter.
Bush's plan is not reform - it's accomodation.
To: FlyLow
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posted on
01/09/2004 12:38:17 PM PST
by
putupon
(Take off the rose colored glasses and Jorge still looks Pinko.)
To: putupon
ROTF.....................!!
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posted on
01/09/2004 12:46:38 PM PST
by
international american
(support our troops.........revoke Hillary's visa!!)
To: FlyLow
The Bush plan stipulates that in order for a worker to participate in the program, the prospective employer must make a reasonable effort to ensure that a U.S. citizen is not available to fill the job. Ridiculous. The government cannot enforce current laws requiring that workers be legal. How would they enforce this? In any case corporation will simply lower wages to the minimum wage to ensure no Americans are willing to take them. What happens to supply and demand in the labor market when there is an unlimited supply of labor?
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posted on
01/09/2004 12:51:38 PM PST
by
Hugin
To: dawn53
A logical, well-reasoned article. Something sorely needed amid the hysteria of the moment. In other words it agrees with your opinion that Bush is correct on this issue.
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posted on
01/09/2004 12:56:26 PM PST
by
itsahoot
(The lesser of two evils, is evil still...Alan Keyes)
To: Hugin
BTW, this could easily backfire on both Republicans and big business. If this ever becomes law I could see voters turning to the Democrats if they promise to raise the minimum wage to $12.00 and require mandatory health care. We could be the next Germany.
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posted on
01/09/2004 12:57:13 PM PST
by
Hugin
To: SolutionsOnly
Funny, but the Turks aren't going home like they're supposed to. Why should we expect anything different here? Too true. What's going to stop these guys from pulling the quick fade and disappearing once they get their guest worker status and are here in this country? Especially when in many jurisdictions local authorities can't turn over illegals to the Feds because the Feds don't want them on their hands?
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posted on
01/09/2004 12:57:46 PM PST
by
adx
(Why's it called "tourist season" if you ain't allowed to shoot 'em?)
To: FlyLow
{Applause!} Thank you for posting this article! They are correct, Bush's plan will be in the cross-shredder as soon as it hits Congress but it sure got the debate rolling! For reference purposes...
House Version Sponsored by Tom Tancredo of CO
Senate Version Sponsored by John Cornyn of TX
Tancredo's plan puts the military on the border until we can train enough border patrol, increases the border patrol and detention centers, ends the "anchor child" problem, increases penalties and bonds and much more.
We need to forget about Bush's plan and get on the Tancredo bandwagon by writing our Congress-critters!
To: FlyLow
Well now, here is the most intelligent and realistic piece on the issue so far.
The one question I have is whether Europeans and Africans will have equal footing in getting these jobs that Americans don't want.
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posted on
01/09/2004 1:06:09 PM PST
by
Mike Darancette
(Proud member - Neoconservative Power Vortex)
To: Hugin
How would they enforce this? Probably through complaints to the government against an employer or shut out Americans suing employers.
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posted on
01/09/2004 1:08:29 PM PST
by
Mike Darancette
(Proud member - Neoconservative Power Vortex)
To: itsahoot
In other words it agrees with your opinion that Bush is correct on this issue. And mine. But of course we could take an approach different than Bush's in trying to fix a longtime problem, we could do nothing as usual except wring our hands and complain.
To: ravingnutter
"Tancredo's plan puts the military on the border until we can train enough border patrol, increases the border patrol and detention centers, ends the "anchor child" problem, increases penalties and bonds and much more."
This is an exciting plan. I am currently a software engineer being put out of business by the gluttonous blue chip corporations. I am an excellent shooter, have mulitple CCWs, and love driving jeeps. I just may have a future as the new league of border patrol dudes, instead of becoming a green card worker in Canada..
To: Mike Darancette
All they have to say is that these jobs require Spanish fluency and TADA!
To: FlyLow
Thanks for posting this. I have been really disappointed in the factual inaccuracies, and cynicism since the story broke here.
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posted on
01/09/2004 1:20:45 PM PST
by
Dolphy
To: ravingnutter
I think they should look at the issue of putting American workers and employers together. There are people that will work these jobs that everyone says won't. Maybe they might want a little more money a hr. But why not the corporations are making enough they should just stop their greed.
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posted on
01/09/2004 1:21:03 PM PST
by
daddyOwe
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