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And btw, folks swaggering in their alleged conservatism most likely do not know what it is beyond the litmus tests du jour. If one opposes government actions, which is a very general, solid, encompassing philosophy completely independent of the Constitution -- well then why would alleged conservatives be looking to government to solve immigration issues. Why would they who want fewer and less government action(s) be complaining that Bush didn't announce more intrusive government enforcement action?

Here's the mantra for the day. If you are an extremist, of any political persuasion, you will NEVER EVER EVER get what you want. That is the nature of the political spectrum and there is nothing you will ever be able to do about it. The best you can ever do is minimize displeasure. There is no escaping that.

If you vote for a Democrat or any fringe third party candidate or stay home, you are electing a Democrat and maximizing displeasure. If you vote for Bush you are minimizing displeasure and that's the best you will be able to do. This is something you just have to live with. It is a reality of life that is inescapable.

49 posted on 01/09/2004 7:49:52 AM PST by Owen
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why would alleged conservatives be looking to government to solve immigration issues

Please stop now. I've heard some absurd and embarrassing arguments defending this initiative, but this takes the prize. Border protection and immigration control are one of the few legitimate constitutional responsibilities of the federal government.

If you want to defend Bush and this initiative, fine, but please use honest arguments.

As far as others' suggestions on this thread that all who have expressed disapproval of this immigration farce are simply DU disruptors, then I guess DU disruptors have taken over the conservative media as well: National Review, Laura Ingraham and even Rush Limbaugh -- to name but a few -- have now been possessed by the Democratic devil.

FR used to be a place for reasoned discussion of federal, political and constitutional issues, not a dewey-eyed, paranoid fan club organized to defend every action of a man who is above all, a politician, and a damned good one at that.

Let's stay in the reality zone.

81 posted on 01/09/2004 9:07:37 AM PST by browardchad
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To: Owen
If one opposes government actions, which is a very general, solid, encompassing philosophy completely independent of the Constitution -- well then why would alleged conservatives be looking to government to solve immigration issues.

Eliminate government entitlement programs, and we're in agreement. But until you eliminate massive government involvement in benefits, one cannot legitimately advocate allowing unfettered immigration.

130 posted on 01/11/2004 6:28:03 AM PST by NittanyLion (E-A-G-L-E-S...Eagles!)
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