[Marysecretary]

And how many people actually do save? Not many. We need some kind of automatic thingy in place so it's taken right out of our salaries and we don't miss it.

[longtermmemmory]

That would also require basic ecconomics in our education system. But that would teach ecconomic self reliance and not government dependence.

Soc. Sec. was never supposed to be ANYBODY's whole retirement plan.

It is all academic. I am all for privatizing at least a portion of the system in order to get above that 2% return.