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Rush: Like It or Not, Bush Leads
Rush Limbaugh ^ | January 8, 2004 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/08/2004 4:16:14 PM PST by ejdrapes

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To: woodyinscc
Ok I give up, have your Dean's or Clarks running this country. Have a 7-2 liberal Scotus. Get your taxes up to 50% where they want them, so they can use the money for socialized medicine. Last but not least watch them gut the military and throw in with the U.N.

You gave up when you tried to put lipstick on the pig of Amnesty.

It's President Bush, not me, who's flirting with the disasters above. He's spitting in the eyes of a lot of people who voted for him in 2000, and that's going to cost GOP votes. It's a policy and political debacle.

Congress needs to save this President from his own blunder.

With a little luck, the Democrats will be stupid enough to help us out in that regard, as was the case when President Bush tried to sneak an extension of Clinton's Section 245(i) Amnesty in the Spring of 2002.


341 posted on 01/09/2004 1:41:55 AM PST by Sabertooth (Eighteen solutions better than any Amnesty - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053318/posts)
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To: nopardons
Don't ask toothy...his crystal ball is cracked.

No, not a one, nada, zilch, bupkiss, ZERO supposed on the right fringer can, or shall win the presidency, or even get above .01% !

Take a look at my #338, and tell me where you disagree.


342 posted on 01/09/2004 1:43:49 AM PST by Sabertooth (Eighteen solutions better than any Amnesty - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1053318/posts)
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To: woodyinscc
Ok I give up, have your Dean's or Clarks running this country. Have a 7-2 liberal Scotus. Get your taxes up to 50% where they want them, so they can use the money for socialized medicine. Last but not least watch them gut the military and throw in with the U.N. OBTW a side benefit of this will be blanket amnesty and citizenship for all illegals.

Have you noticed the widespread outrage at the idea of blanket amnesty, increased immigration and citizenship for illegals? I'm not talking on here, but as reported over and over again in the liberal media. The people do not want this, yet every single Democrat candidate for president just put out there that they support amnesty and earned citizenship. It was like they all gathered and wrote the press releases at the same time, using the same pen.

Those candidates are finished. They could carry their own liberal base, but that's it. They've all been outted.

And coming up, we'll have debate after debate in Congress, many of them carried live, in which liberal after liberal will talk about how we need to give citizenship to the illegals, how they have a right to live here.

I don't know if this was a planned result of Bush's announcement or not - if it was planned, they are playing with fire. But either way, almost every media outlet is talking about immigration and the issue is at the forefront. And lots of people are letting their opinions being heard.

I have not given up on Bush, mostly because I know that he's my only choice. I don't like the way he's playing with blank checks, I don't like how he has been handling a lot of issues. I do know that I hate the alternatives that are present at the moment.

Yes, I was one of the idiots who voted for Perot, and I thank the stars that the margin of difference between Perot and Bush in my state didn't give Clinton the Whitehouse. I didn't vote for Perot, I voted for the issues of a balanced budget and regaining control of my country. I drank the kool-aid. I'm no longer a single issue person, I look to get as much as I can, and hope that my screaming will keep them from going too far in the wrong direction.

The long and short of this is, discussion is not something to win or to lose, it is what it is, discussion. Do not give up, and don't for a moment imagine that the liberals will regain the Whitehouse this year.
343 posted on 01/09/2004 1:47:05 AM PST by kingu
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To: kingu
Thanks for the post.

I was being glib if not sarcastic. I will never ever throw my vote away, and I will never never vote for a rat.

344 posted on 01/09/2004 1:53:33 AM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Sabertooth
He's spitting in the eyes of a lot of people who voted for him in 2000, and that's going to cost GOP votes. It's a policy and political debacle.

900+ Freepers voting no on approval for a plan that may never be implemented is a far cry from "spitting in the eyes" of the 50 million who voted for him. Most voters vote for the whole package and not just one issue. You may be getting giddy over the political fallout over this issue but the latest poll has Dubya at 60%.

In the 80s there were "conservatives" who claimed Reagan betrayed the base by reaching out to Gorbachev, protecting Harley Davidson, a ballooning budget deficit, and his own amnesty proposal.

Your vote and all your friends, who think just like you do and REALLY don't like the immigration proposal and likely never voted for Dubya in the first place, will more than be made up by centrist voters who have learned that they no longer need fear the GOP is controlled by its fringe.

345 posted on 01/09/2004 2:25:15 AM PST by Once-Ler (Proud Republican and Bushbot)
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To: nopardons
Yep I heard that too. Besides, the "single issue" candidates I can't stand, it tells me they can't think outside the box.
346 posted on 01/09/2004 3:04:02 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: ConservativeMan55
Bump in support of Rush!!!!!
347 posted on 01/09/2004 3:05:50 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: nopardons
I wonder about those that believe Congress enforces the law. This is why we have 3 branches of Government and a mulitude of Departments in DC. Congress has enough problems with the single issue of legislating sometimes.
348 posted on 01/09/2004 3:07:54 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: jrawk
If we get rid of the 11 million or so illegal aliens working in the country now who will do that work? **

Are trying to tell me that every single illegal is here working. Even the children, mothers and old people who are here illegally?

How does the market move skills to the most efficient area if it is paralyzed by full employment?

You are contradicting yourself. Doesn't the presence of the illegals (the 11 million plus the 8.9million) already mean that we have full employment, in fact a surplus?

What is wrong with a systematic approach in deporting them? I don't agree with the claim that our economy would come to a halt. Are you telling me that our economy is dependent on grass cutters, maids, busboys and dish washers? I hardly think so.

349 posted on 01/09/2004 3:10:00 AM PST by raybbr
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To: arm958
I'm hoping their are many more like you and I. Until this week, I was a Republican stalwart going on a quarter century. I cannot continue this lesser of two evils business. I'll be joining the Constitution Party promptly, and I won't look back.

As Rush would say "Yip Yip Yahoo!". If and when you see the error of your ways, you'll always be welcome back into the giant GOP tent.

350 posted on 01/09/2004 3:17:29 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Zipporah
Tancredo doesn't want anyone to write his name down as a write-in candidate. Besides, he's a one trick pony. Immigration is his forte', I won't fault him for that. His single issue of immigration is best suited for Congress.
351 posted on 01/09/2004 3:19:54 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: sinkspur
I don't know what chain migration is.

All the time you spend on these threads and you don't know? HAH! Forgive me if I don't believe you.

352 posted on 01/09/2004 3:21:55 AM PST by raybbr
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To: Scarlet Pimpernel
And President Bush's base is going to go where exactly? As much as I don't like the President immigration plan, I'm not worried about it becoming law anytime soon cause it doesn't go far enough for the Democrats. And I'm not forgetting they are the real danger to this country.
353 posted on 01/09/2004 3:29:22 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: DCPatriot
I'd be foaming at the mouth if Bush hadn't thought it through, took the small steps, and made this an irreversible Executive Order. At least the voters get a chance to mull it over, and Congress gets to tackle the issue. I still cannot believe that nearly 48 hours have passed and so much knee jerking going on still. Rush took 24 hours to figure it out. I figured it out right after the speech was finished. As an aside, the Democratic and third party reaction to this proposal was so predictable.
354 posted on 01/09/2004 3:31:04 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Once-Ler
You may be getting giddy over the political fallout over this issue but the latest poll has Dubya at 60%.

I think that poll was out before the speach.

356 posted on 01/09/2004 3:37:29 AM PST by raybbr
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To: kingu
The blanket amnesty issue is being ignored or misreported in regards to Bush's proposal by the media and the knee jerk pundits. Bush clearly stated in his speech that he opposes blanket amnesty. Something the Democrats wanted as you pointed out. That's where the outrage from the Democrats stems from.
357 posted on 01/09/2004 3:39:36 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: raybbr
Right, and the poll on the front page of this website is rather misleading if you stop and think about it. The obvious being that one can vote NO more than once. I believe the kneejerkers on this site have been voting more than once.
358 posted on 01/09/2004 3:43:42 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: BigSkyFreeper
expanding on my previous post: Of course the poll isn't scientific, thats the not the point, the point is, it's not indicative of the opinion of those who aren't registered or even "set foot" onto this forum.
359 posted on 01/09/2004 3:47:37 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: raybbr
All the time you spend on these threads and you don't know? HAH! Forgive me if I don't believe you.

You don't know either, I guess.

360 posted on 01/09/2004 4:38:10 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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