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Rush: Like It or Not, Bush Leads
Rush Limbaugh ^ | January 8, 2004 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/08/2004 4:16:14 PM PST by ejdrapes

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To: Destro
Normally we don't like seeing people killed over misdemeanor infractions. That is because we live in a Christian society which honors the inalienable right to life.
221 posted on 01/08/2004 10:31:01 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: ejdrapes
The 55 mph speed limit was ignored by the vast majority of Americans. All were BREAKING THE LAW. It was a stupid and unworkable law.

The newly-revised speed limit acknowledges something else - REALITY.

For decades, illegal aliens have entered America and lawmakers looked the other way. Americans have embraced them, hired them and protected them. Without their support, they would have withered on the vine.

Now Bush alone did not cause this. YOUR MANY FELLOW AMERICANS DID.

You are asking George Bush to deport them all, right now. Or, just pass the buck and ignore it like everyone else. It is preposterous, but maybe you don't know it - yet.

This principled stand of suicide, the kind of tin-eared McClintock nonsense that put us into the margins for nearly a decade, is sheer political stupidity. Yeah, yeah, it is better to die than compromise...give it up.

Instead, Bush challenges the conventional thinking and saves the best of them, and loses the worst.

He has established a datum reference line, and can be hardcore on those that don't follow the rules from now on. Like raising the speed limit to a more workable level, Bush has accepted the reality that VOTING AMERICANS LIKE YOU hire these people. HE IS DEALING WITH THAT REALITY.

It is BRILLIANT, and GOP'ers failing to see this is not only expected, because most blind Conservatives could not understand the concept of an Arnold vs. the unelectable McClintock, but rather it is the ONLY likely initial response I would have expected.

I would be truly stunned if even 10% of Republicans understood the rationale now. That there is one other person on this board that 'gets it' absolutely astonishes me.

But I believe that in time this initiative will be seen as yet another stroke of bold strateregy by this remarkable President.

Thank God for President Bush.

222 posted on 01/08/2004 10:33:14 PM PST by Stallone (Warrior Freepers Rule The Earth)
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To: Zipporah
at this point, it's called self-preservation.

No! It is called self immolation.!!

223 posted on 01/08/2004 10:33:51 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Stallone
And thank God for your post.!
224 posted on 01/08/2004 10:35:35 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Zipporah
I understand politics far better than you ever shall. I also understand that voting against someone who will give 50% of what you want, helping to elect someone who will give you not only 0% of what you want, but close to 100% of what you don't want,is akin to insanity.

Yolu havedn't a clue, not even a smidgen of an idea what thesd " blue card " thing is about. The ONLY way you'd be pleased,is if President Bush would set up a new army, of sorts, went from house to house, dragged every illegal out, deported them, and built a 50 foot wall on every border, topped with AK47s, who shot to death, anyone and everyone, who ventured near it. Right ?

225 posted on 01/08/2004 10:38:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: goldstategop
It seems to me that it is the middle that decides the election ONLY if the parties can maintain their base. Bush seems to be pissing all over his base. How will going after the middle help if his base stays home?
What is this cult of leadership anyway? If I have to suffer a leader, I want somebody that can articulate a reasonable set of policies and convince me that these policies will work to accomplish their stated goals. Bush simply fails in this.
226 posted on 01/08/2004 10:40:40 PM PST by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: Cultural Jihad
Rioting is a misdemeanor infaction? AS one of the callers pointed out today in Rush's show, imagine when we are "Hunting" down the illegals and one or two of them get killed. God forbid there are children involved. Can anyone say, Rodney King type riots, paralysis of entire cities and all the rest. People seem to live in glass houses and throw out stones not realizing that some might come back and hit them.

And my reply: So fear of riots by a population of criminals holds us hostage to enforcing the law?

Where did you get that I want to kill people for being illegals? Or even that I want to kill rioters?????

Should I add shame on you??

227 posted on 01/08/2004 10:50:48 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Zipporah
Doesn't matter one whit to me who is in the lead.. my loyalty to the Republican Party or to Bush won't supercede my loyalty to the US...

Well said. For some reason, that seems to a difficult concept for a few folks around here.

228 posted on 01/08/2004 10:51:01 PM PST by dagnabbit (Tell Bush what to do with his Mexico Merger - Write in Tancredo in your State's primary)
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To: Scarlet Pimpernel
Bush simply fails in this.

It's been one day, Get your knees out from under your chin, and give this time to play out.

The dims were going to spring all out amnesty, in a couple of months. When the conservatives started hollering no way, here comes the race card. Bush has beaten them to the punch, offered no amnesty, and the dims cannot say he has, in fact they are positioned to argue he hasn't. Just watch and see how this plays out, Bush's political acumen makes the so called political prowess of clinton into a myth.

229 posted on 01/08/2004 10:51:30 PM PST by woodyinscc
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To: Destro
Nonsense. Crossing the border without governmental permission is what is in the vast majority of cases a misdemeanor, and no one said or implied anything whatsoever about you or your beliefs.
230 posted on 01/08/2004 10:54:05 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: nopardons; Zipporah
How about routine police pickups of illegals and prosecution of Americans who hire them as slave labor to the fullest extent of the law? Dry up the job market as you cut off the supply of illegals.

I have no pity and in fact would love to see Americans who hire illegals doing lengthy jail time or paying expensive fines.

Why do your kind think we need Nazi SS like force to solve this problem? Is it to stain those that want to deport illegals as blood thirsty bigots so as to silence us?

231 posted on 01/08/2004 10:55:34 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Cultural Jihad
And my reply is: Why do your kind think we need Nazi SS like force to solve this problem? Is it to stain those that want to deport illegals as blood thirsty bigots so as to silence us?

How about routine police pickups of illegals and prosecution of Americans who hire them as slave labor to the fullest extent of the law? Dry up the job market as you cut off the supply of illegals.

I have no pity and in fact would love to see Americans who hire illegals doing lengthy jail time or paying expensive fines.

Only your side brings up the spector of a Berlin like wall of death where blood thristy gringos shoot Mexicans for sport in an attempt to smear and silence those that are against ILLEGAL immigration.

232 posted on 01/08/2004 10:59:22 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
How are you going to KNOW who has hired the ILLEGALS ?

My " kind " ? I just talk about what YOUR KIND has already posted, as what they want.If the " bloody stain " fits...you're welcome to it. ;^)

233 posted on 01/08/2004 11:08:33 PM PST by nopardons
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To: woodyinscc
Your comment is appreciated!

The whole world is a tuxedo and we're a pair of brown shoes!

NOT!
234 posted on 01/08/2004 11:09:29 PM PST by Stallone (Warrior Freepers Rule The Earth)
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To: nopardons
The same way the Justice Dept KNOWS Walmart hired contractors that used illegal immigrant labor who were payed slave wages. Forgot about that did you?
235 posted on 01/08/2004 11:10:31 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Well, there have been instances of border vigilantes committing felony kidnapping and assault against people they speculated and conjectured had committed some misdemeanor infractions miles away. Those who want to become apoplectic over the rule of law are now sitting in jail thinking about the rule of law they violently broke.

Are they 'gringos'? Who knows and who cares. There are as many Hispanics who are opposed to undocumneted immigration as there are Anglos. But I suspect they would not be supportive of smears against their culture or language which the bigots like to present.

Would we need to mine or militarize the border with shoot-to-kill orders against this "titanic and epic enemy invasion" or cruelly advocate the Three S's (shoot-shovel-shutup)? Probably not. Yet that is what we hear being said much too often by the apoplectic, and frankly the advocacy of violence should not be tolerated by anyone. People speed on freeways and commit misdemeanors for doing so, and yet you don't hear calls to shoot the offenders.

The rule of law was designed to promote justice, not the other way around. One is a relative good, the other an absolute good.

236 posted on 01/08/2004 11:11:57 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Destro
Nope, but that was a RARE incidence. What about all of the other ILLEGALS working here ? Hmmmm....and just WHY haven't ALL of them been found and deported, like the Walmart ones ? It's SO easy to find them, isn't it ?
237 posted on 01/08/2004 11:15:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: woodyinscc
You are the one who keeps apologizing for each and every time Bush has screwed his base. Do you think the people on this site are angry because this is the only time it has happened? How much time will it take for you to understand the enormous damage he is doing to this country? I am glad it was you who compared Bush to Clinton. You seem to enjoy the political game playing involved. I am not playing a game and I don't give a damn about Bush's Stratergery. Bad IS bad and it doesn't matter one bit to me if the label on the can says Republican or Democrat. It still stinks and you aren't going to kill the sour taste of it by holding your nose and eating it anyway.
238 posted on 01/08/2004 11:16:26 PM PST by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: ejdrapes
Rush knows that Bush has dug himself a very deep hole and is trying to keep it from caving in on him, but it's too late. That hole is too deep and the sides are made of sand.
Rush needs to read again about the straw that broke the camel's back.

While everyone has their eyes open and before ya'll go back to sleep, let me also give you something to consider.
Bush would not issue and EO granting amnesty to illegals in an election year, so for Rush to imply that Bush has done us any favors or acted above board, is really lame.

Some of us have not been asleep these past three years. We have watched Bush fly back and forth to embrace Fox and promise Fox that he would get Fox what he wanted at all costs. We have watched Bush practically tear his hair out trying to sneak amnesties by the survivors of 9-11 that constitute the rest of the nation. It took Freepers launching calls to block 245i not once but twice.

He's tried everyway he can to inflict more and more illegals on the nation, underhanded or in broad daylight. Bush is a globalist. Everyone knows that sometimes scoundrels think being bold is more likely to bring the suckers to heel because they refuse to believe anyone could be that bold. It certainly worked for Clinton.

I ask you all to consider this. If any of you think for one second this is the last of Bush's betrayals guess again. When this man is not facing re-election, when there are no constraints on him whatsoever, he will attempt to ram the FTA treaty through congress, and in case you havn't given alot of study to that treaty, he may as well open up that black suitcase and nuke the entire country. The damage will be just as great. Bush hasn't lied about it, he has said he wants "to see a Free Trade Zone from the north of Canada to the tip of Cape Horn". He just hasn't said that that entails totally open borders or no borders.

I came to Free Republic in Oct. of 2,000 telling Freepers that the U.N. was a bad deal, full of our enemies, and I was toasted a golden brown. Now there is no doubt anymore. I told Freeper's that France and Germany were some of our worst enemies, I was toasted a golden brown. Now there is no doubt anymore.

Before we launched our war on terror I told Freepers that Syria bears watching, that Saddam would hide his WMD's there, now it is coming to light that this is the case. Soon there will be no doubt anymore. And now I am telling you that if re-elected Bush's entire focus will be on getting the FTA treaty, if not passed, then as far down the road as he can push it. And I'm telling you that treaty is a nation killer, it's a real bad deal. Bush has been able to do damage that I have serious doubts that any demonrat would have dared to attempt.

I have alot of confidence that if re-elected he can manage much more.
239 posted on 01/08/2004 11:19:09 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Visalia
Would a society survive if all laws are broken?

No, but a society would not survive if all laws were rigorously enforced either. We would all be in jail for something.

240 posted on 01/08/2004 11:21:16 PM PST by staytrue
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