Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

DUMPING CONSERVATIVES AT THE BORDER
Laura's Weekly E-Blast ^ | 1/8/2004 | LAURA INGRAHAM

Posted on 01/08/2004 3:34:13 PM PST by kellynla

I am beginning to think John McCain actually won the presidency in 2000.

Conservatives were relieved when the Straight Talk Express petered out during the 2000 primary season. John McCain, although tough on national security and runaway spending, was hardly a conservative on major issues such as campaign finance, healthcare reform and immigration.

Yet this is exactly where we find President Bush today (except unlike McCain, Bush doesn’t seem to have much of a problem with runaway spending). Last year President George Bush signed the McCain-Feingold bill into law, which is one of the worst assaults on political speech this country has ever seen. When conservatives (and many liberals) howled, the President’s advisers whispered that they believed the Supreme Court would “clean up” the more onerous parts of the bill which dictates the types of political ads that can air before a general election or primary contest. Of course the Supreme Court rubber stamped the entire thing and so the result is less, not more political speech in the U.S.

And now President Bush charges across the landscape to rescue us from our “unfair” and “broken” immigration system by rewarding people who came here illegally with the promise of legal status. This proposal essentially mirrors the immigration legislation sponsored by—you got it—Sen. McCain. Under the Bush/McCain plan, anyone outside the U.S. who wants to come into the country would only need to show proof of a “job offer” in order to get an initial three-year work permit that would be renewable for an unspecified period. Such temporary workers could also bring family members here. What prevents these people from staying on beyond their time premitted for "temporary" work? As it stands now, there seems to be no limit on the immigration —temporary or permanent— allowed under this plan. And as for the claim that this would be a big boon to the American economy? Illegal immigration costs taxpayers $20 billion each year, in extra education, healthcare, welfare, and prison costs. Today thirty-four percent of Mexicans legally in the U.S., and 25 percent of Mexicans illegally here are welfare.

How are those costs diminished under the Bush plan?

Most bewildering is the Administration idea that this plan is necessary for homeland security reasons. On the contrary, it would not be surprising if some would-be terrorists are among the millions of illegals who will become “documented” under the Bush plan. As Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) charged, "Guest worker programs and gradual amnesty provide cover for terrorists."

It’s easy to understand why Vicente Fox, McCain, big business, and La Raza are happy this week—but what’s in this new proposal for working class American families? How about those immigrants who a lot of time and money to comply with our immigration laws?

The real answer is absolutely nothing. The only reasonable prediction is that wages for a wide range of jobs will be kept artificially depressed by outside workers—now with “legal status” will work for peanuts. “I have worked construction for 30 years as a truck driver (18-wheeler),” wrote one of my listeners, “And every year my pay has gone down because Mexicans are flooding the trucking industry…."

When Bill Clinton says we live in an “increasingly borderless world,” we’re not surprised. It’s the usual globaloney blather. But when a Republican president advocates a policy that will make our borders effectively meaningless, we should be outraged.

With his approval numbers high, President Bush has made a devil’s bargain with business and Hispanic groups. Elites from both parties are ignoring the view of a strong majority of Americans that we need to stop illegal immigration, not high-five it.

Another listener wonders: “What happened to the ‘party of principle’? More like the party of pandering. Considering the massive numbers involved, this amnesty being floated really is Pandora's Box, once opened cannot be closed.”

President Bush has now done the equivalent of posting a sign at the border: “Help Wanted for $5.15/hour.”

Conservatives are right to be disappointed in President Bush. We are right to ignore the Administration’s promise that this time, non-amnesty amnesty will be good for the American people. Our citizenship and legal residence should be reserved for people who love this country enough that breaking her laws—whether at the border or on the street—is out of the question. The next time I hear from his Administration that it is doing all it can to protect our homeland, secure our borders, and increase our standard of living, I will laugh.

Now I know the definition of “compassionate conservative:” a person who campaigns as a conservative, then sells out key conservative principles.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amateurtalker; biggovernment; culturewar; gop; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigration; invasion; lauraingraham; rushwannabe; thenannystate; thewelfarestate; toonspardonuscrooks; w2; welfarestate
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 521-540541-560561-580581-582 next last
To: Luis Gonzalez
LOL!

Keep up the good work Luis....

541 posted on 01/09/2004 8:47:37 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 540 | View Replies]

To: Joe Hadenuf
I am Joe, I'll counter the propaganda with facts...I'll be everywhere.
542 posted on 01/09/2004 9:01:27 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 541 | View Replies]

To: Joe Hadenuf
Yeah Joe, try as they might it's impossible to defend the indefensible.
543 posted on 01/09/2004 9:10:59 PM PST by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 539 | View Replies]

To: kevao
Now I understand why the (new) Republican party runs like it does.
544 posted on 01/09/2004 9:12:52 PM PST by Happy2BMe (r)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 536 | View Replies]

To: kevao; jpsb
"To return to the restaurant again, I mean, no one has been getting sick from the food there. So where is the probable cause for the health inspector to be coming around the place?"

Uh bouy . .

I ran operations that fed up to 1,000 people in one sitting, 3,000 in an afternoon. Plus, I've run various food service operations in different parts of the world.

I always viewed the health inspector as my friend. If my kitchen produced food poisoning, my cooks would take some of the heat, by I would take most of it.

And word of mouth travels like greased lightning when it come to somebody being food poisened - BOTTOM LINE is lost business and revenue.

Not sure if I could consider the NIS boys as necesarily "friends" as I would a health inspector.

The restaurant/bar business can be hell. So can being a president. But a polititian - they come from hell.

545 posted on 01/09/2004 9:20:54 PM PST by Happy2BMe (r)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 529 | View Replies]

To: ought-six
It looks like I'll be giving the Constitution Party some very serious thought. I like the platforms I've seen from them. I may have found a home.

I am with you. The more I look at their platform, the more I keep asking myself why I am not on board with them. This party is perfect for Alan Keyes supporter types. Whom I voted for over Bush in the Republican Pres. primary election. I did vote for GW for President, but it will not happen again. Even though his immigration plan is just a proposed outline for Congress to start with, he has shown his true colors on this issue. "The lesser of two evils , is still evil ", Alan Keyes. I would not/will not call Pres. Bush evil, I thank God that Gore lost the election, but the Presidents outline proposal, if not changed dramatically, will severely hurt hard working Americans and this country, for sure.
546 posted on 01/09/2004 9:50:48 PM PST by Peace will be here soon (Beware, there are some crazy people around here !!! And I could be one of them !!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 344 | View Replies]

To: Happy2BMe
These are all good ideas. However, all that is really needed is "#8 Seize the assets of businesses knowingly hiring Illegals under the RICO Act, as they are ongoing criminal enterprises. Prosecute executives who knowingly hire Illegals."

And one you didn't mention. Station INS agents at hospitals, clinics, schools, etc., to arrest and deport any criminal alien trying to use our social services.


These options require no new laws and little or no extra spending. They use the irrevocable law of supply and demand to solve the problem and because they do not require any new laws, they can be implemented any time we can get a president who cares as much about the rule of law and keeping the country safe as he cares about his personal political career.

When the illegal aliens can’t get illegal work and can’t suck our social services dry, they will go home where they belong and there will be no incentive for other criminals to come here in their place.

This isn’t rocket science. It is an easy problem to solve. Eliminate the incentive to break the law and the law breaking stops. The free market solves the problem.
547 posted on 01/10/2004 1:26:28 AM PST by SUSSA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 388 | View Replies]

To: Poohbah
I don't hire illegals. That means the INS has no frickin' business wandering into my place of business without a warrant.

ABSOLUTLY RIGHT !!!! This needs to be repeated and often.

However, there is no reason to allow criminals to continue their illegal operation. The INS just needs to get a warrant when inspecting a business. When a business is illegally employing lots of criminal aliens there is generally plenty of probable cause, so getting a warrant to inspect their records and ID their employees is no big deal.

Nor is it a violation of anyone’s rights to park marked INS cars and vans outside the criminal business. When the illegal aliens show up for work and see uniformed INS agents and marked INS vehicles, most of them will turn around and leave. A few days of this will put a real dent in the criminal employer’s productivity.

We don’t have to trash what’s left of the Bill of Rights to solve this problem. All we need is an administration that believes in the rule of law.

548 posted on 01/10/2004 2:05:52 AM PST by SUSSA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 518 | View Replies]

To: Poohbah
Pooh, I don't know, and the FR Poll is anecdotal at best, but if you are referring to Poll's on "Illegal Immigration", I think we can all agree that they consistantly run in the 70 percentile against "Illegal" Immigration and has held steady for at least a decade. Media Poll's are suspect and they always have been, depending on how the question is asked and who is asked. Another poster say's I am in the minority, and I'm sorry but 65 is bigger than 21 by 3, so maybe that poster misread. 2000 was close by anybody's standard's, even Rove's. The Uniter did nothing to help improve that with this proposal. We have no choice but to wait for Congress to act, and hopefully they'll see this outburst and seal our borders before anything else. Perhaps we should invade Mexico and rid the world of another despot, absorb them and their resources and move on. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the WH. I understand the rats are loving this, but who's fault is it? Our's or George's? Blackbird.
549 posted on 01/10/2004 2:30:44 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 394 | View Replies]

To: Tamsey
Conservatives who vote third party while our national security hangs in the balance...

Defend this stance with open border's. National Security takes a backseat with this proposal, and yet you support it wholeheartedly. You are all over the place. Any argument in a pinch, huh!? How many islamonuts have infiltrated our borders with these Illegals flooding across? How many more are to come with the new millions? Where's that National Security now? Spare me. Blackbird.

550 posted on 01/10/2004 2:49:24 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 428 | View Replies]

To: BlackbirdSST
Perhaps we should invade Mexico and rid the world of another despot

We should have done that when the first time the Mexican army crossed our border and attacked our citizens. Clinton let them get away with it and so did Bush.

We have a hostile cesspool on our southern border. Their army attacks us inside our borders and we do nothing except kiss their ass. They sided with Saddam in the U.N. and this president ignored it. His “you’re either with us or against us” crap is very selective. It looks like it only applies to countries that compete with his father’s business interests.

We can send our military to Liberia to take sides in a civil war that has nothing what so ever to do with our interests, or with us, but we can’t protect American citizens inside our own borders from attacks from a foreign military.

But what the hell, the president is a Republican and almost as popular as Clinton was, so let’s forget all this. The important thing is he can win an election and he is a Republican. Everything else is unimportant.

551 posted on 01/10/2004 2:51:59 AM PST by SUSSA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 549 | View Replies]

To: BigSkyFreeper
Illegal aliens can't vote to begin with... Ever hear of Motor Voter? This proposal will legitimize these ILLEGALS, and guess what, part in parcel to that will be Driver's License. Defacto voter's, by the hordes. Keep ignoring this at you own peril. Blackbird.

Maybe you should reign back all that pent up anger your bucking and stop biting the heads of fellow posters off merely because they don't share your world view on certain issues, particularly this one. Just because we're all FReepers doesn't mean we all have to think alike

Maybe you should spend some time contemplating how wrong you are instead of attempting to psychoanalyse your fellow FReepers. You made a statement, I countered with at least anecdotal evidence that you are wrong, who got angry? Learn Spanish and fear for your Job, your Family, and your Country. That would be productive. If we don't shoot this down NOW, I'm the least of your worries. Blackbird.

552 posted on 01/10/2004 3:03:01 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 421 | View Replies]

To: Luis Gonzalez
I'd say Kelly's estimate is more useful than yours. The 88,000 mile figure includes all the little estuaries, nooks and crannies, a certain distance up the length of rivers, etc. For the purpose of actually patrolling the coasts the 12,000 figure is more useful because it would be done from the water, not land. You wouldn't bother patrolling an entire bay when you can just patrol the opening to the bay and so forth.
553 posted on 01/10/2004 3:51:06 AM PST by Buck72
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 141 | View Replies]

To: SUSSA; Sabertooth; deport
Just talked to another good friend about our illustrious presiden't decision on immigration.

This is not the first call I've gotten on this - I've had several.

Each one are up in arms over utter disgust, disbelief, and awe.

Each are Republicans who have voted party line an average of forty to fifty years.

Each agree on one thing: Bush lost a minimum of 10% of his support in one fell swoop. In one day he has successfully manged to do the near impossible - alienate at least 25% of ALL Republicans.

Hell hath no fury like a Republican scorned.

554 posted on 01/10/2004 8:09:55 AM PST by Happy2BMe (r)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 547 | View Replies]

To: Happy2BMe

8. Later this month President Bush will give his State of the Union Address to the nation. What topic are you most interested in hearing the president talk about during his speech? (OPEN ENDED)

The economy/jobs 35%
Iraq 17
Terrorism 10
Health Care 4
Medicare/
prescription Drugs
4
Education 3
Immigration/
illegal aliens
2
Social Security 2
Taxes 2
Budget Deficit 1
Other 5
None 6
Not sure 9

555 posted on 01/10/2004 8:18:00 AM PST by deport (..... DONATE TO FREEREPUBLIC......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 554 | View Replies]

To: deport
Job Searches in 2003 the Longest in 20 Years

556 posted on 01/10/2004 8:38:54 AM PST by Happy2BMe (r)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 555 | View Replies]

Comment #557 Removed by Moderator

To: deport; kellynla; Buck72; kevao; Joe Hadenuf; jpsb
Take the FReeper Poll

After hearing President Bush's speech, do you approve of his immigration reform plan?

Yes
415 votes - 22%

No
1,234 votes - 65%

Undecided
237 votes - 12%

1,886 votes total; you voted "No"

558 posted on 01/10/2004 8:55:53 AM PST by Happy2BMe (r)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 555 | View Replies]

To: Poohbah
"What's the term again? ILLEGAL immigration? Does that not imply that ENFORCING the LAWS against illegal immigration is LAW ENFORCEMENT?...

Please explain which 'hostile military' the illegal aliens belong to."

Have you found THE loophole for hordes of invaders to infiltrate the United States of America?

Do you mean to say that an invading "hostile military" can only be regarded as such if they are wearing fatigues and carrying arms?

559 posted on 01/10/2004 10:23:55 AM PST by F16Fighter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 451 | View Replies]

To: Happy2BMe
That about matches the rest of the country. I figure about 75% of American's are against the Bush plan.

560 posted on 01/10/2004 11:54:18 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 558 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 521-540541-560561-580581-582 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson