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DUMPING CONSERVATIVES AT THE BORDER
Laura's Weekly E-Blast ^ | 1/8/2004 | LAURA INGRAHAM

Posted on 01/08/2004 3:34:13 PM PST by kellynla

I am beginning to think John McCain actually won the presidency in 2000.

Conservatives were relieved when the Straight Talk Express petered out during the 2000 primary season. John McCain, although tough on national security and runaway spending, was hardly a conservative on major issues such as campaign finance, healthcare reform and immigration.

Yet this is exactly where we find President Bush today (except unlike McCain, Bush doesn’t seem to have much of a problem with runaway spending). Last year President George Bush signed the McCain-Feingold bill into law, which is one of the worst assaults on political speech this country has ever seen. When conservatives (and many liberals) howled, the President’s advisers whispered that they believed the Supreme Court would “clean up” the more onerous parts of the bill which dictates the types of political ads that can air before a general election or primary contest. Of course the Supreme Court rubber stamped the entire thing and so the result is less, not more political speech in the U.S.

And now President Bush charges across the landscape to rescue us from our “unfair” and “broken” immigration system by rewarding people who came here illegally with the promise of legal status. This proposal essentially mirrors the immigration legislation sponsored by—you got it—Sen. McCain. Under the Bush/McCain plan, anyone outside the U.S. who wants to come into the country would only need to show proof of a “job offer” in order to get an initial three-year work permit that would be renewable for an unspecified period. Such temporary workers could also bring family members here. What prevents these people from staying on beyond their time premitted for "temporary" work? As it stands now, there seems to be no limit on the immigration —temporary or permanent— allowed under this plan. And as for the claim that this would be a big boon to the American economy? Illegal immigration costs taxpayers $20 billion each year, in extra education, healthcare, welfare, and prison costs. Today thirty-four percent of Mexicans legally in the U.S., and 25 percent of Mexicans illegally here are welfare.

How are those costs diminished under the Bush plan?

Most bewildering is the Administration idea that this plan is necessary for homeland security reasons. On the contrary, it would not be surprising if some would-be terrorists are among the millions of illegals who will become “documented” under the Bush plan. As Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) charged, "Guest worker programs and gradual amnesty provide cover for terrorists."

It’s easy to understand why Vicente Fox, McCain, big business, and La Raza are happy this week—but what’s in this new proposal for working class American families? How about those immigrants who a lot of time and money to comply with our immigration laws?

The real answer is absolutely nothing. The only reasonable prediction is that wages for a wide range of jobs will be kept artificially depressed by outside workers—now with “legal status” will work for peanuts. “I have worked construction for 30 years as a truck driver (18-wheeler),” wrote one of my listeners, “And every year my pay has gone down because Mexicans are flooding the trucking industry…."

When Bill Clinton says we live in an “increasingly borderless world,” we’re not surprised. It’s the usual globaloney blather. But when a Republican president advocates a policy that will make our borders effectively meaningless, we should be outraged.

With his approval numbers high, President Bush has made a devil’s bargain with business and Hispanic groups. Elites from both parties are ignoring the view of a strong majority of Americans that we need to stop illegal immigration, not high-five it.

Another listener wonders: “What happened to the ‘party of principle’? More like the party of pandering. Considering the massive numbers involved, this amnesty being floated really is Pandora's Box, once opened cannot be closed.”

President Bush has now done the equivalent of posting a sign at the border: “Help Wanted for $5.15/hour.”

Conservatives are right to be disappointed in President Bush. We are right to ignore the Administration’s promise that this time, non-amnesty amnesty will be good for the American people. Our citizenship and legal residence should be reserved for people who love this country enough that breaking her laws—whether at the border or on the street—is out of the question. The next time I hear from his Administration that it is doing all it can to protect our homeland, secure our borders, and increase our standard of living, I will laugh.

Now I know the definition of “compassionate conservative:” a person who campaigns as a conservative, then sells out key conservative principles.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amateurtalker; biggovernment; culturewar; gop; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigration; invasion; lauraingraham; rushwannabe; thenannystate; thewelfarestate; toonspardonuscrooks; w2; welfarestate
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To: BlackbirdSST
Maybe you should reign back all that pent up anger your bucking and stop biting the heads of fellow posters off merely because they don't share your world view on certain issues, particularly this one. Just because we're all FReepers doesn't mean we all have to think alike.
421 posted on 01/09/2004 12:39:56 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: kevao
What's that have to do with the national budget?
422 posted on 01/09/2004 12:42:50 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Poohbah
When you have to cite the protests--the protests that could have been avoided had the "conservative base" actually shown up--as evidence of what conservatives did for Bush, you merely underline the fact that we conservatives have done very little for him, but constantly demand a great deal in return.

BINGO!

423 posted on 01/09/2004 12:46:17 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Poohbah
Do you have a better proposal that can actually be implemented? Speak up, lad!

Well, for starters, how about NOT rewarding criminal behavior. What you subsidize, you get more of.

Secondly, I don't buy the argument that we don't have the resources to go after millions of illegals. We've found our way clear to increase the federal budget by 23% since 2001, exploding spending in every area except immigration and border security. Adding 1047 border patrol agents over a three-year period ain't gonna cut it -- we can do a lot better than that.

Finally, how about imposing some really strict penalties on employers who hire illegal immigrants, and then enforcing those penalties? I think this is something we're going to do under the amnesty plan, but why do we have to wait for that? If it's good later, why wouldn't it be good right now?

424 posted on 01/09/2004 12:48:54 PM PST by kevao
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To: BigSkyFreeper
What's that have to do with the national budget?

Which post are you referring to?

425 posted on 01/09/2004 12:51:02 PM PST by kevao
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To: kevao
Post #410 or did you not notice what post it was linked to?
426 posted on 01/09/2004 12:54:02 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: kevao
Secondly, I don't buy the argument that we don't have the resources to go after millions of illegals.

It's not just resources--it's civil liberties. Do you want checkpoints every 50 miles so you can show your papers to a surly "border guard?"

We've found our way clear to increase the federal budget by 23% since 2001, exploding spending in every area except immigration and border security. Adding 1047 border patrol agents over a three-year period ain't gonna cut it - we can do a lot better than that.

Uh-huh. Define "a lot." BE SPECIFIC. WHAT DO YOU PROPOSE TO DO?

I get extremely annoyed with proposals that say "well, uh, do SOMETHING."

As for the employers: "Probable cause," and mens rea. Those four words make it damn near impossible to enforce harsh penalties.

427 posted on 01/09/2004 12:54:07 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: BlackbirdSST
Another lefty exposing themselves for all to see

What's ironic is that your attitude is pure DU. Anyone who disagrees with the babble of rhetoric over there is immediately accused of being a "rightie"....

Now, grab a pencil and take this down... Conservatives really CAN dislike another conservative while still sharing the same political principles... just amazing, aint it?!?Perfect example of this is an abortion clinic bomber. While we may share exactly the same preferences in legislative policy and political platforms, I have no respect for someone who implements these political values in such a moronic and counterproductive manner.

Another perfect example? Conservatives who vote third party while our national security hangs in the balance...

428 posted on 01/09/2004 12:55:41 PM PST by Tamzee (EARTH FIRST!!! We'll stripmine the other planets later...)
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To: SerpentDove
Didn't see a whole lot of "grassroots" efforts in 2000, I think you're referring to 2002. Either way, it doesn't matter. You folded on him in 2000, he's just seeing your fold in 2004.
429 posted on 01/09/2004 12:58:13 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: kevao
how about imposing some really strict penalties on employers who hire illegal immigrants

What? And pissoff the chamber of commerce? How will the countryclubs survive without illegals? Eh? Answer that?

430 posted on 01/09/2004 12:59:07 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Tamsey
Another perfect example? Conservatives who vote third party while our national security hangs in the balance...

Yep. The last time that happend, Clinton won the White House in 1992 and 1996.

431 posted on 01/09/2004 1:01:49 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: BigSkyFreeper
>>Didn't see a whole lot of "grassroots" efforts in 2000, I think you're referring to 2002.<<

By grassroots, I mean talking to individuals and campaigning for Bush, etc. No, I said what I meant.

>>You folded on him in 2000, he's just seeing your fold in 2004.<<

I voted for him in 2000, I did not fold on him. And I can be just as needlessly rude as you. Get bent, you stupid jackass.
432 posted on 01/09/2004 1:04:39 PM PST by SerpentDove (The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Yes, I did notice it was #410. Poohbah was decrying the lack of conservative support for Bush in 2000. In reponse, I said that the conservative activist base was very supportive, especially in organizing the protests during the recount period.

There is no mention of the national budget in post #410.
433 posted on 01/09/2004 1:04:39 PM PST by kevao
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To: BlackbirdSST
Now he wants to Unite US Coporations with all the cheap slave labor they can afford!
You got that right! The H1B visa program which put hundreds of thousands ( well over 500,000 ) of techies out of work was just a small scale experiment. If you read the wording of this so called plan, it is all to familiar to the H1B visa program. Why people are supporting President Bush on this is beyond me. The Constitution Party may soon be getting all my support ; with my feet, my voice, my vote , and my money.
434 posted on 01/09/2004 1:06:41 PM PST by Peace will be here soon (Beware, there are some crazy people around here !!! And I could be one of them !!)
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To: SerpentDove
OK so you voted for him in 2000. You do realize this was one of his many campaign issues then, did you not? Of course you did, we all did, we wanted something done about the border problem. That's all I'm saying.
435 posted on 01/09/2004 1:10:02 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: Poohbah
Random checkpoints would be inefficient. The problem is illegal immigrants working illegally. You will find the illegal workers at their places of employment.

Specifically, we could easily spend another $100 billion/year on enforcement. With that, you could add thousands of agents to the INS and Border Patrol.

And how about posting Guard units along the borders? Why hasn't the military been guarding our borders all along?

Enforcement really isn't all that complicated. It is costly, but it's far less complex than this amnesty proposal, which in order to work needs an effective enforcement component anyway.

And if lack of specifics gets you annoyed, then you can't be all that happy with President Bush's proposal either.
436 posted on 01/09/2004 1:19:50 PM PST by kevao
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To: kellynla
Bump for a great article.

BTW, it is very telling that many of those cheering Bush's plan on this thread are spending most of their time in ad hominem attacks and shrill "who will pick the lettuce and clean the toilets?" rhetoric. (That is so very 1980s. Catch up, people. These days it's "who will build our houses and run our restaurants, stores, and fast food franchises?")

437 posted on 01/09/2004 1:22:38 PM PST by djreece (A broken-glass Bush 2000 voter who is now weighing my options after this and the Medicare boondoggle)
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To: ImpBill
bttt I'm going to have to steal that! ;)
438 posted on 01/09/2004 1:24:31 PM PST by Libertina (If it moves, tax it. If it doesn't move it's a sitting duck - tax it TWICE!)
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To: kevao
Specifically, we could easily spend another $100 billion/year on enforcement. With that, you could add thousands of agents to the INS and Border Patrol.

Uh-huh. So, you're now spending gazillions of dollars AND doing so for extremely intrusive law enforcement not based on probable cause.

And how about posting Guard units along the borders? Why hasn't the military been guarding our borders all along?

Posse Comitatus Act.

439 posted on 01/09/2004 1:34:30 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: onyx
I am grateful President Bush has tried to offer a solution and his can't be that bad because the democrats don't like it and either do the "real" *snort* conservatives. You know, the 3rd party folks.

Handled nicely, good job.

440 posted on 01/09/2004 2:06:11 PM PST by PRND21
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