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DUMPING CONSERVATIVES AT THE BORDER
Laura's Weekly E-Blast ^ | 1/8/2004 | LAURA INGRAHAM

Posted on 01/08/2004 3:34:13 PM PST by kellynla

I am beginning to think John McCain actually won the presidency in 2000.

Conservatives were relieved when the Straight Talk Express petered out during the 2000 primary season. John McCain, although tough on national security and runaway spending, was hardly a conservative on major issues such as campaign finance, healthcare reform and immigration.

Yet this is exactly where we find President Bush today (except unlike McCain, Bush doesn’t seem to have much of a problem with runaway spending). Last year President George Bush signed the McCain-Feingold bill into law, which is one of the worst assaults on political speech this country has ever seen. When conservatives (and many liberals) howled, the President’s advisers whispered that they believed the Supreme Court would “clean up” the more onerous parts of the bill which dictates the types of political ads that can air before a general election or primary contest. Of course the Supreme Court rubber stamped the entire thing and so the result is less, not more political speech in the U.S.

And now President Bush charges across the landscape to rescue us from our “unfair” and “broken” immigration system by rewarding people who came here illegally with the promise of legal status. This proposal essentially mirrors the immigration legislation sponsored by—you got it—Sen. McCain. Under the Bush/McCain plan, anyone outside the U.S. who wants to come into the country would only need to show proof of a “job offer” in order to get an initial three-year work permit that would be renewable for an unspecified period. Such temporary workers could also bring family members here. What prevents these people from staying on beyond their time premitted for "temporary" work? As it stands now, there seems to be no limit on the immigration —temporary or permanent— allowed under this plan. And as for the claim that this would be a big boon to the American economy? Illegal immigration costs taxpayers $20 billion each year, in extra education, healthcare, welfare, and prison costs. Today thirty-four percent of Mexicans legally in the U.S., and 25 percent of Mexicans illegally here are welfare.

How are those costs diminished under the Bush plan?

Most bewildering is the Administration idea that this plan is necessary for homeland security reasons. On the contrary, it would not be surprising if some would-be terrorists are among the millions of illegals who will become “documented” under the Bush plan. As Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) charged, "Guest worker programs and gradual amnesty provide cover for terrorists."

It’s easy to understand why Vicente Fox, McCain, big business, and La Raza are happy this week—but what’s in this new proposal for working class American families? How about those immigrants who a lot of time and money to comply with our immigration laws?

The real answer is absolutely nothing. The only reasonable prediction is that wages for a wide range of jobs will be kept artificially depressed by outside workers—now with “legal status” will work for peanuts. “I have worked construction for 30 years as a truck driver (18-wheeler),” wrote one of my listeners, “And every year my pay has gone down because Mexicans are flooding the trucking industry…."

When Bill Clinton says we live in an “increasingly borderless world,” we’re not surprised. It’s the usual globaloney blather. But when a Republican president advocates a policy that will make our borders effectively meaningless, we should be outraged.

With his approval numbers high, President Bush has made a devil’s bargain with business and Hispanic groups. Elites from both parties are ignoring the view of a strong majority of Americans that we need to stop illegal immigration, not high-five it.

Another listener wonders: “What happened to the ‘party of principle’? More like the party of pandering. Considering the massive numbers involved, this amnesty being floated really is Pandora's Box, once opened cannot be closed.”

President Bush has now done the equivalent of posting a sign at the border: “Help Wanted for $5.15/hour.”

Conservatives are right to be disappointed in President Bush. We are right to ignore the Administration’s promise that this time, non-amnesty amnesty will be good for the American people. Our citizenship and legal residence should be reserved for people who love this country enough that breaking her laws—whether at the border or on the street—is out of the question. The next time I hear from his Administration that it is doing all it can to protect our homeland, secure our borders, and increase our standard of living, I will laugh.

Now I know the definition of “compassionate conservative:” a person who campaigns as a conservative, then sells out key conservative principles.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amateurtalker; biggovernment; culturewar; gop; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigration; invasion; lauraingraham; rushwannabe; thenannystate; thewelfarestate; toonspardonuscrooks; w2; welfarestate
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Times that by the 8 million that already here and the millions that will flood across the border in less than a year after this is made into law and you realize how throughly screwed over this country's taxpayers and future have been.

Yep, and the majority will all demand programs and care that they will *never* be able to pay for. The tax payers better get ready.

381 posted on 01/09/2004 9:56:53 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
"Actually I think a major revolt might be a real possiblity in the near-future . ."

This is mid-January. November is nine months away.

IMHO, Bush is in for the awakening of his political life.

And so is the Republican Party.

382 posted on 01/09/2004 9:59:13 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Now that's funny. And it's how I look right about now.


383 posted on 01/09/2004 10:00:31 AM PST by SerpentDove (The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.)
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To: Happy2BMe
WHATEVER they are doing now, it is NOT working.

In other words, you don't know a thing about what the problem actually is, you're just going to throw a hissy fit until it's solved to your satisfaction.

If you don't know what the problem is, how will you ever know whether or not it's solved?

Common sense is not a player at the border.

Neither is it in play with you. You're demanding that others take this seriously, and you're unwilling to do so yourself.

Political fortunes are at stake here, including George W. Bush's.

He had better wake up and smell the coffee yesterday morning or he is going to cause a party split like you have never seen.

I thought the issue was the illegal immigration problem, not whether a hypothetical split in the Republican Party happens. Please stay focused.

Answer to your question:

Quit the political mamby-pamby bullshit over worrying about how many votes you are going to lose and get on with solving the border crisis!

Fine. Give a detailed plan for solving the border crisis. THAT was my question. If you are unable to answer it because you are ignorant, that's your problem.

384 posted on 01/09/2004 10:01:43 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Happy2BMe
Question: If President Bush had not announced his new illegal immigration initiative until NEXT WEEK, would the ill feelings now causing such slurs as those above be going on right now?

That wasnt a slur. If someone believes that 1,500 Marines can patrol 2,100 miles of border effectively, then he is attributing magical powers to them, which is rather silly.

385 posted on 01/09/2004 10:04:16 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Poohbah
On thing that bugs me about where I live is that if the police pull over or otherwise dicover an illegal, the cops are legally prohibited from turning them over to INS. They have to let them go.

Outrageous.

It seems to me that if this nonsense were changed, it might help tremendously. Then the illegals could be put on the "Nazi" bus back to Mexico, with a sack lunch, a soda pop, and they might even get to sing some camp fire songs on the way home.
386 posted on 01/09/2004 10:05:50 AM PST by SerpentDove (The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.)
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To: SerpentDove
Fine. About all you'd do is encourage illegal aliens to obey traffic laws.
387 posted on 01/09/2004 10:12:55 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Poohbah; SerpentDove; Paul C. Jesup; kellynla; Joe Hadenuf; Itzlzha; BigSkyFreeper; SUSSA; ...
"Fine. Give a detailed plan for solving the border crisis. THAT was my question. If you are unable to answer it because you are ignorant, that's your problem."

Poohbah. How many FReepers in your opinion are willing to hear the true resolutions to ending the border crisis?

Are they willing to put their money (and their vote) where their mouth is?

These solutions are among the most reasonable, realistic; credible, and effective proposals I've seen anywhere to date:


388 posted on 01/09/2004 10:14:57 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Fine. You merely repeat Saber's proposals.

How do you propose to actually close the border tightly enough for any of these to actually work?
389 posted on 01/09/2004 10:17:50 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Poohbah
You convinced me.

The Party is now split.

390 posted on 01/09/2004 10:19:20 AM PST by Happy2BMe (2004 - Who WILL the TERRORISTS vote for? - - Not George W. Bush, THAT'S for sure!)
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To: Happy2BMe
We'll see.

One thing is for sure: you're forced to pray that Bush loses the election, because he won't owe you a damn thing if he wins.
391 posted on 01/09/2004 10:23:11 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Peace will be here soon
I seem to remember Pres. Bush was going to be a uniter , not a divider ! LOL !!

He's pretty United with Ted Kennedy, and all the rest of the Socialist in DC. Now he wants to Unite US Coporations with all the cheap slave labor they can afford! What sux is we pick up the tab. I'll be looking hard at the Constitution Party this weekend. Blackbird.

392 posted on 01/09/2004 10:31:07 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: onyx
Those of who who view Bush negatively are the minority once again.

There you go, bring in that fuzzy math. 65% against, 21% for Bush's proposal, and the 65% are in the minority. That's quite the FReak show you got going there. Blackbird.

393 posted on 01/09/2004 10:35:00 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: BlackbirdSST
The numbers are against this proposal.

How are the numbers for Bush overall?
394 posted on 01/09/2004 10:36:52 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Tamsey
The kool-aid thing is old and tired...

So push yourself away from the table and stop drinking it if you find it so old and tired. Blackbird.

395 posted on 01/09/2004 10:36:58 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: Poohbah
>>Fine. About all you'd do is encourage illegal aliens to obey traffic laws.<<

What? I guess I don't understand where you're coming from.

???

I suggested at least a step toward getting illegals out. What could possibly be wrong with what I suggested?
396 posted on 01/09/2004 10:47:24 AM PST by SerpentDove (The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.)
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To: Tamsey; Joe Hadenuf
You're free to vote as you wish, of course, but I'm free to find little to respect with regard to your "values" as a right-winger.

Man these threads are great. Another lefty exposing themselves for all to see. Can't seem to find a way to respect the values of the right wing huh? Now, come back and tell everyone what a great Conservative you are. BTW, the only thing found in the middle of the road, is roadkill. Blackbird.

397 posted on 01/09/2004 10:51:02 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: SerpentDove
What? I guess I don't understand where you're coming from.

If traffic stops are going to net most of your illegal aliens, then they'll simply adapt their behavior to make it less likely that they will get pulled over.

I suggested at least a step toward getting illegals out. What could possibly be wrong with what I suggested?

Nothing. It just won't accomplish very much.

398 posted on 01/09/2004 10:54:47 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Poohbah
I never said it would net "most" aliens. I just said it would be a step in the right direction.

You seem exceptionally touchy this morning, I'll assume you're angry at something somebody previously said and it's carrying over.

Take care.
399 posted on 01/09/2004 10:59:20 AM PST by SerpentDove (The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Illegal aliens can't vote to begin with...

Ever hear of Motor Voter? This proposal will legitimize these ILLEGALS, and guess what, part in parcel to that will be Driver's License. Defacto voter's, by the hordes. Keep ignoring this at you own peril. Blackbird.

400 posted on 01/09/2004 11:03:10 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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