Posted on 01/08/2004 3:34:13 PM PST by kellynla
Yep, and the majority will all demand programs and care that they will *never* be able to pay for. The tax payers better get ready.
This is mid-January. November is nine months away.
IMHO, Bush is in for the awakening of his political life.
And so is the Republican Party.
In other words, you don't know a thing about what the problem actually is, you're just going to throw a hissy fit until it's solved to your satisfaction.
If you don't know what the problem is, how will you ever know whether or not it's solved?
Common sense is not a player at the border.
Neither is it in play with you. You're demanding that others take this seriously, and you're unwilling to do so yourself.
Political fortunes are at stake here, including George W. Bush's.
He had better wake up and smell the coffee yesterday morning or he is going to cause a party split like you have never seen.
I thought the issue was the illegal immigration problem, not whether a hypothetical split in the Republican Party happens. Please stay focused.
Answer to your question:
Quit the political mamby-pamby bullshit over worrying about how many votes you are going to lose and get on with solving the border crisis!
Fine. Give a detailed plan for solving the border crisis. THAT was my question. If you are unable to answer it because you are ignorant, that's your problem.
That wasnt a slur. If someone believes that 1,500 Marines can patrol 2,100 miles of border effectively, then he is attributing magical powers to them, which is rather silly.
Poohbah. How many FReepers in your opinion are willing to hear the true resolutions to ending the border crisis?
Are they willing to put their money (and their vote) where their mouth is?
These solutions are among the most reasonable, realistic; credible, and effective proposals I've seen anywhere to date:
- 1: Eliminate all mention of Section 245(i), even if expired, from the US Immigration and Naturalization Code. No more Amnesty, ever.
- 2: Get legislation through Congress that would enable States to deny goodies to Illegals, a la Prop #187.
- 3: Outlaw Mexican matricula consular IDs, and kick banks accepting them out of the FDIC. Legal depositors will withdraw from recalcitrant banks.
- 4: Beef up Border Security with manpower, resources, and a Volunteer Reserve, if necessary. No troops, and no messing with posse comitatus, this should be a civilian effort.
- 5: Beef up the immigration courts and set deportation hearings for two weeks after apprehension, with no bail.
- 6: Run sting operations at day laborer sites.
- 7: Establish two-way communication between the IRS and Border Security, and start apprehending and deporting Illegals using false SS numbers (no, the current overhyped voluntary program doesn't count).
- 8: Seize the assets of businesses knowingly hiring Illegals under the RICO Act, as they are ongoing criminal enterprises. Prosecute executives who knowingly hire Illegals.
- 9: Compile biometric information on Illegals, and declare that they will be permanently ineligible for immigration and citizenship.
- 10: If the United States declares that the above proposals against Illegals will be diligently enforced after a certain date, many Illegals will leave beforehand, and a relatively small number of well-publicized cases of enforcement throughout the Lower 48 will result in millions of Illegals deporting themselves.
- 11: End the busting of immigration caps by limiting family reunification to spouses and dependent children, and counting them against the caps when they are brought in. Require all future immigrants to declare their future intent to bring in family upon arrival. This way, families can immigrate in a controlled, orderly fashion without the current deceptions being used against the American public. We must have truth in immigration.
- 12: Outlaw anchor babies, and give the option to the Illegal parent of taking the child with them upon deportation, or putting them up for adoption.
- 13: Outlaw bilingual ballots, and resume the English-speaking requirements for citizenship.
- 14: Establish English skills as a prerequisite for future immigrants. Let's start admitting folks who will hit the ground running toward assimilation.
- 15: Shut off new immigration to nations that offer dual citizenship. Disqualify current immigrants from those nations from future American citizenship.
- 16: Make Mexico and Central America our cheap import sources of choice with tariffs on manufacturing from other sources, especially China.
- 17: In return, Mexico must open up to American investment by allowing the sale of real estate to us and guaranteeing property our rights. Getting Mexico to fix its economy is crucial.
- 18: Establish a guest worker program where an initial bond is posted by the Illegal and his employer, say $500 each, with more withheld from the Illegal's earnings, as security for his departure from the US by the specified date. Guest worker visas must be applied for in the workers' countries of origin, and participants are only eligible to be employed by their sponsoring employer. Violation of these terms will render the worker ineligible for any future visas or residence in the US. Any guest worker program can only come after anti-Illegal measures are in place. Handshake promises of future diligence will not be trusted from any politician of either party, including President Bush.
The Party is now split.
He's pretty United with Ted Kennedy, and all the rest of the Socialist in DC. Now he wants to Unite US Coporations with all the cheap slave labor they can afford! What sux is we pick up the tab. I'll be looking hard at the Constitution Party this weekend. Blackbird.
There you go, bring in that fuzzy math. 65% against, 21% for Bush's proposal, and the 65% are in the minority. That's quite the FReak show you got going there. Blackbird.
So push yourself away from the table and stop drinking it if you find it so old and tired. Blackbird.
Man these threads are great. Another lefty exposing themselves for all to see. Can't seem to find a way to respect the values of the right wing huh? Now, come back and tell everyone what a great Conservative you are. BTW, the only thing found in the middle of the road, is roadkill. Blackbird.
If traffic stops are going to net most of your illegal aliens, then they'll simply adapt their behavior to make it less likely that they will get pulled over.
I suggested at least a step toward getting illegals out. What could possibly be wrong with what I suggested?
Nothing. It just won't accomplish very much.
Ever hear of Motor Voter? This proposal will legitimize these ILLEGALS, and guess what, part in parcel to that will be Driver's License. Defacto voter's, by the hordes. Keep ignoring this at you own peril. Blackbird.
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