DUMPING CONSERVATIVES AT THE BORDER

Laura's Weekly E-Blast ^ | 1/8/2004 | LAURA INGRAHAM

[Mamzelle]

Like that cheap household help, do you?

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Rooting for illegals"?

This isn't a football game, this is political and social reality.

There's a problem, and there needs to be a solution. To engage in debate that does not consider every angle of the issue is moronic.

To make idiotic statements like "round them up and throw them out" just points to the painful naivete of the posters here.

[Lady Eileen]

Yes, that's the one...very funny.

[Wolfstar]

If you seriously want to "keep up the pressure," the place to do it is not on the internet trading whiny posts with like-minded individuals. The place to do it is in Congress. They will be back in late January (or whenever the mood strikes 'em). That's the time to flood Congress with phone calls, emails, letters, postcards, whatever it takes to head this legislation off before it ever gets out of committee.

[kellynla]

"Should we shut down tourism as well Miss Laura?" We don't have to shut down tourism, we just have to enforce the present immigration and temporary visa laws. But then I would think you already would know that now wouldn't you? You see the illegals suppress the wages of all Americans, native or naturalized, because an unethical employer can employ the illegal for less money and no benefits and not have to worry about the employee ever complaining.

[skeeter]

Let's Call it "Weekend at Vincente's", and have Rove as the Andrew McCarthy charachter

I like it.

I'll get to work on the script this weekend.

[moondoggie]

Nothing like some good ole common sense to throw a wrench in the works:-)

You said... You vote for Dean or stay home or vote 3rd party and you elect a Democrat and your displeasure is maximized. You vote for Bush and your displeasure is minimized. This is not rocket science.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Construction related work for Americans is just about gone around here."

Perhaps if construction workers did not expect to receive wages that just a few decades ago would not be earned by a Doctor, and buyers did not expect to receive more for the money when purchasing a house, then Americans would be working in construction.

But, let's face it, it's ridiculous to think that one could work in construction, and live in a style that just a few decades ago was reserved for bankers and professionals.

I make a good living now, and I look back wondering how in the hell I made it on a fraction of what I make now...but I did, and I see others coming up behind me making do with less.

Our expectations are out of whack with reality.

[kellynla]

"A miniscule increase in the cost of harvesting lettuce and tomatoes alone will erase your $20 billion, I know that seems like a lot of money to you, but it isn't.

Then you'll deal with the increase in wages for the menial jobs of cleaning rooms in hotels, washing dishes, tending to the golf courses, and before you know it, saving the taxpayers $20 billion have cost the public $200 billion."
And you have documentation? And just how do you think we managed before 1970??? American family farmers planted and harvested for hundreds of years without the help of illegals, thank you...I just don't know how we managed without??? ROFLMAO

[Itzlzha]

"Illegal immigrants cost the taxpayers $20 billion every year"

How come no one ever calculates the impact on the economy via lower prices for goods and services that are directly related to the lower wages paid illegal immigrants?

I'll pay the higher cost for these goods, if it will secure our borders, because I know that innovation will create the impetus for prices to be reduced!

Because they don't want anyone to think about that aspect, that's why.

Think about this...every time an Illegal Infiltrator needs ANY medical attention, they use the Emergency Room and an Ambulance. Why? Beacuse FEDERAL LAW MANDATES that no one can be turned away, even ILLEGAL INFILTRATORS, that comes in by ambulance!

Now, an American Citizen can have his pay attached if he can't pay the bill, but the ILLEGAL INFILTRATORS have their bills paid for by... the AMERICAN TAXPAYER!

Now, while an ILLEGAL INFILTRATOR is riding in an ambulance with a bad cold, someone else in town who is an AMERICAN CITIZEN is having a coronary...but the closest ambulance is hauling an ILLEGAL INFILTRATOR to the emergency room...care to put the cost on that?

[Lady Eileen]

Construction related work for Americans is just about gone around here. Even if you are willing to work for the depressed wages, you're going to have a hard time working in your own country if you don't speak Spanish.

Don't you realize we are under foreign occupation? You always have to learn the language of the invader.

[kellynla]

"By the way, when that Humvee is six miles away from the point of entry, what will you do about the people sneaking in?" You don't know any Marines do you? ROFLMAO

[grania]

Enforcing the law, deporting illegals who have been arrested, and restricting welfare will be sufficient enough to encourage many illegals to leave. President Bush, IMHO, has encouraged more to come.

Add to that fining and jailing those who knowingly hire invaders (or omit background checks) and passing laws where US citizens can claim wages they would've gotten from employers who hired non-citizens instead.

The 80% to 90% of US citizens who are disgusted with the lack of respect politicians and corporate types show for citizenship and the borders will be accused of all kinds of things by those who try to tell us how to think. Nothing will change until politicians in the mold of Representative Tancredo wake up and see that this is a winning issue.

[Itzlzha]

I never thought an "LEO-Uber-Alles" type like you would be OK with the systematic violation of the laws...wow!

No, I just have sympathy for people who do hard honest work in search of a better life.

Funny...you seem to have more "sympathy" for ILLEGAL INFILTRATORS than you do anyone else that has a run in with the Jack-Boot Crowd...why is that.

If you need proof, just look back on the Columbine threads, and other threads where the Police overstepped their bounds!

[LTCJ]

I've run the numbers, and they aren't pretty. About 3,000,000 or so new "border guards," just to close the Mexican border.

Sorry, Pooh. There is no way that number is right. I'm an Ops officer and I that's not the way it's done.

I've no doubt it wouldn't come cheap but that's way off.

[Dane]

Funny...you seem to have more "sympathy" for ILLEGAL INFILTRATORS than you do anyone else that has a run in with the Jack-Boot Crowd...why is that

Sorry but I just can't think that a person who is cleaning toilets 10 hours a day as the evilest of the evilest in the world, like it seems you are wont to do.

[skeeter]

It seems you are rooting for the illegals. Am I wrong?

Correctomundo.

As always.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"We don't have to shut down tourism, we just have to enforce the present immigration and temporary visa laws."

kelly...ours is an open society that respects the right of the individual to be free from unreasonable searches.

If a person overstaying their temporary visa decides to fade into the society, how would you go about finding them?

Would you conduct house searches in the hope that you could capture them somewhere?

How about the ten million illegal aliens in the country, roughly half of them are Mexican, so, do you stop people walking down the street because they "look" Mexican, and ask them to show you proof that they belong here?

If stopped at the street tomorrow, could you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you were in fact an American citizen?

I look Hispanic, will I be required to carry sufficient identification on me at all times to satisfy the curiosity of an overzealous LEO?

Just about then only thing that can be done, is to be sufficiently aware to "nab" visa violators at every point they cross paths with law enforcement agencies, and we do that now.

Last year, there were nearly one million voluntary departures of people who were caught overstaying their visas, and a number of forced deportations that I can't recall off the top of my head right now.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Yes I do.

But you seem to think that they "see all and hear all", if that's the case, why don't they do better at avoiding bombs in Iraq while driving those very same Humvees around?

[Lady Eileen]

Now, an American Citizen can have his pay attached if he can't pay the bill, but the ILLEGAL INFILTRATORS have their bills paid for by... the AMERICAN TAXPAYER!

The message is: Shut Up and Pay Your Taxes.