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Dad's memory isn't doing him any Favre - Philly - What Class!
Philadelphia Daily News ^ | 1/8/04 | Classless Don Russell

Posted on 01/08/2004 2:48:16 PM PST by Solson

After Brett Favre's dad, "Big Irv," died last month, even Eagles fans felt sorry for the Green Bay Packers' star quarterback.

For about three minutes.

Then we found out the Birds would be playing the Packers in the second round of the NFC playoffs.

And now, Birds fans are bad-mouthing Favre, big time.

On talk radio, they mocked his dad's ascension to heaven.

On the Internet, they're laughing at the idea that, as one TV sportscaster proclaimed, "There's an angel on the shoulders of the Packers."

The trash talk at the Eagles' official fan site only ceased when the Web site moderator threatened to ban anyone who joked about Big Irv.

There is no pity in Philly for "Saint" Brett.

Family tree
FATHER:

Irvin Favre. As a high school football coach, he helped Southern Miss violate NCAA rules to recruit his son.

WIFE: Deanna. He got her pregnant when he was 18, and she was 19. Married her seven years later.

BROTHER: Scott. Killed a family friend when he drove his car into a railroad crossing and got hit by a train. Jailed for DUI.

SISTER: Brandi. A Mississippi beauty queen, arrested for shoplifting.

Model citizen

In 1992, Favre was arrested after a barroom brawl in Hattiesburg, Miss., that began when he was arguing with the future Mrs. Favre. A bystander tried to intervene, and soon Favre was wrestling him to the floor. Favre was charged with drunkenness, disorderly conduct, and profanity.

Pillhead

Favre was a substance abuser in the mid-1990s. In 1996, he announced he was addicted to Vicodin, a prescription pain-killer.

The NFL sent him to the Menninger Clinic in Topeka, Kan., to dry out. Favre now says he's sober.

Mentor

"The biggest problem wasn't getting the pills down, it was keeping them down. I'd go into the bathroom, take a big slug of water, and try swallowing a handful of pills. Most of the time, I'd just throw them right back up and they'd land on the floor. No big deal. I'd just pick the pills out of the vomit, rinse them off, and try again."

- From "Vicodin, Rehab and Beer. Hey, It Won Me a Super Bowl," an excerpt from Favre's 1998 autobiography, "Favre: For The Record," published in Esquire magazine

Caring father figure

During his Vicodin addiction, Favre went into a seizure in front of his 7-year-old daughter. While watching her dad convulsing, the child screamed, "Is my daddy going to die? Is my daddy going to die?"

A reformed man

Favre was sprung from rehab after lying to his counselors. In his autobiography, he brags:

"Finally, I told them what they wanted to hear: that I was a drug addict and I needed help. Sure enough, a week later they said, 'We think you're ready to leave.'

"...Then I walked out the door and was like, 'Screw you.' "

Dork

He's a clubhouse prankster who's been known to put Heet ointment in players' jockstraps and shaving cream in their helmets. Once, he doused his own roommate with a bucket of ice water while he was on a commode.

If he wasn't making $10 million a year, somebody would've already pushed him off a tall building.

Hollywood star

In his best-known screen role, "There's Something About Mary," he somehow manages to lose Cameron Diaz to Ben Stiller. In the lesser-known "Reggie's Prayer," Favre plays a janitor in an all-star cast that includes M.C. Hammer, Reggie White, Mike Holmgren and Pat Morita.

A gentleman

Favre likes to fart. A lot. He told Playboy:

"If I'm on a golf outing with [Dan] Marino and [Jim] Kelly and they're getting ready to hit, I'll rip a big fart. They say, 'That's awful!' But why? Everybody does it. Just because you're a professional athlete or a politician doesn't mean you stop taking dumps and scratching your ass. Of course, there's a time and place for humor like that. I don't go to corporate events, where everyone is in a suit and tie, and start cutting farts. Not loud ones, anyway."

Wuss

Brett is scared of the dark. He sleeps with a light on.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: classless; eagles; favre; favrehaters; football; nfl; packers; twobithacks
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To: Catspaw
Yup, I remember that day. All the kids got off from school to see The team come home from N.O. Me, I lived across the state from Green Bay so I had to watch on t.v. Just not the same!

However, you may have confetti but *I* have a small vial containing turf from the 50 yard line at Lambeau Field! Only a cheese- head would understand...
121 posted on 01/08/2004 6:53:42 PM PST by Lakeside
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Whoever wins the game Sunday (it's going to be a slobberknocker ... these teams will beat the hell out of each other) is going to lose to the poofter Dome speedy Rams. The Eagles, when healthy, have the personnel in the NFC, but they can't beat the Rams on that lunar landscape missing all those guys. The Packers are underdogs because for all his assets, Favre has a lack of situational awareness in Domes. It's his only mind fook.

Sunday's Packer-Eagles game is the tilt of the weekend, no doubt. If the Pack lose on Sunday, I'm an Eagles fan next week against the St. Louis Dome prima donnas.

I see a Rams-Patriots redux. I'll wash my hair.

122 posted on 01/08/2004 7:02:56 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Lakeside
However, you may have confetti but *I* have a small vial containing turf from the 50 yard line at Lambeau Field! Only a cheese- head would understand...

I also remember vehicles in a line that stretched out for blocks when they sold boxes of Lambeau turf that year. And also remember, prior to that, one family sprinkled the ashes of their father on the goal line at Lambeau (and I was mad because my father had just died and that's where he would've loved to have ended up). I just wonder who got THAT box of Lambeau turf :-))

This year, one of my sisters-in-law called me a couple days before the Denver game and asked me if I could get tickets for the game. At face value. She got mad at me when I laughed hysterically (and most mockingly) at her. She was absolutely convinced that I Knew Someone who could get her tickets for the game because I lived in Green Bay. At face value. BWHAHAHAHAHA!

123 posted on 01/08/2004 7:03:44 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: MizzouTigerRepublican
I love the Cowboys but know realistically that they overachieved this year and had no business in the playoffs.

I cannot even begin to tell you how badly we wanted the Cowboys in Lambeau 93-96. The Packers played seven or eight straight games on the road in Dallas during that period. Lost all of them. Every single regular season game ... and they played once a year ... was down on that slanted field. The first game the Cowboys came to Green Bay, in 1997, it was a 42-10 Packer blowout.

Every Pack fan I knew in 1996 was rooting for the Cowboys to beat the Panthers. We wanted retribution. Denied.

124 posted on 01/08/2004 7:12:51 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Catspaw
That reminds me of the commercial back then in which neighbors in Green Bay feigned great sadness when another was moving away. After the van left with the "friends" and their possessions the whole neighborhood erupted joyously that now there were x number of vacated seats up for grabs at Lambeau.
125 posted on 01/08/2004 7:15:15 PM PST by Lakeside
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To: Lakeside
LOL! Packer tickets are put in wills, subject to division in a divorce settlement ("who cares about custody of the kids, the house, the cottage up north, the stock portfolio and the retirement account--who's going to get the season tickets?"), even had lawsuits about them when someone dies without a will. I even remember a lawsuit when someone who had a block of tickets & sold the tickets to the same people year after year UNTIL he decided he was going to sell them to somebody else.

The added seats at Lambeau helped the season ticket backlog (but not much). Those season tickets--and the new boxes--were snapped up fast. There are tickets to the pre-season and regular season games reserved for Brown County residents (because we're paying for the Lambeau renovation), but those have to be purchased before the season, not a few days before the game.

126 posted on 01/08/2004 7:26:41 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Catspaw
The procession showed up 4 hours late, if I recall.

I actually have the celebration on tape somewhere. Didn't Favre, Howard and several Pro Bowlers skip the parade and go straight to Hawaii?

One more thought. If I were Leroy, Edgar, Winters or one of the old timers I would have NEVER let McMahon wear his Bears jersey at the WH celebration. Remember how awful that was watching Clinton paw OUR team? With Jim McMahon, who did NOTHING to get us to Super Bowl, wearing his Bears jersey!

Just through fate, I happened to run into Gale Sayers a year or two at a Par 3 backup when he was calling on 3M and all the bigwigs were out nuthugging him at Hudson Country Club. I told him how P.O.'d I was that McMahon wore the Bears jersey at the WH celebration, and he gave me a high five! He said ... "That's the newbreed NFL. A***holes! That guy's the worst of them all." Ha!

For any other faults Chmura had, at least he had the guts to stay home and say "Clinton is a corrupt traitor." He didn't go. He said ... "I wouldn't walk across the room to shake his hand, much less go 1100 miles." Testify!

127 posted on 01/08/2004 7:28:01 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
I actually have the celebration on tape somewhere. Didn't Favre, Howard and several Pro Bowlers skip the parade and go straight to Hawaii?

I think they did. I remember Reggie being there, clutching the Lombardi trophy. (And Desmond Howard dumped the Pack to join Al Davis' Heisman collection in Oakland, but that's another story.)

Gawd, McMahon and that damn Bears jersey. I KNEW the Pack shouldn't have EVER picked him up. People here when nuts the first time they tried & I was PO'ed when he became a Packer. OTOH, I wish we'd kept Andre Rison. I know Brett was disappointed when we didn't.

128 posted on 01/08/2004 7:36:38 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: Lando Lincoln

I have been a Packers fan since SuperBowl I. Through the lean years when very few cared about them. Most of these arguements are mute in the long run.

He is grieving. This column is unconscionable. The author is a pathetic, small person and his editor is not much better.

Shame on both of them and the entire City of Brotherly Love if they agree with it.

129 posted on 01/08/2004 7:39:19 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: Solson
OK OK..........so I live in North Carolina, so obligingly support the Panthers......but a LONGtime 49'ers fan. Therefore, no dog in this fight.

However, I have found myself admiring Favre.

Question: Tasteless as it may be, is this piece accurate?????? Forget all of the emotionalism and team spirit here...........is the guy accurate in what he wrote?

130 posted on 01/08/2004 7:40:02 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: RightOnline
Yes. It's accurate.

131 posted on 01/08/2004 7:42:46 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Catspaw
Packer fans are indeed one of a kind! It's been wonderful reminiscing with you but now must call it a night. Now, why do I have this sudden urge for fried cheese curds....?

Wisconsin--America's best kept secret..and I liked it that way.Now if you could just keep those Chicagoans from immigrating!
132 posted on 01/08/2004 7:43:11 PM PST by Lakeside
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To: ArneFufkin
Thank you. So...........let's just say that A) he comes from a white trash family (spent plenty of years in virtually every Southern state, so I'm qualified to say that), B) he's human, C) he had a problem that I hope he truly has licked........but how gross..............., D) the Phillie fans are right: give the "Angel" stuff a huge rest.

Favre is one hell of a quarterback. Period. That's why I enjoy watching him. He DOES love his job, and I find that refreshing.

As for his criminal homey teammates........just further evidence of the continued "Thug-ization" of the NBA and NFL. I'm certain every NFL team has similar stories. Black athletes had damned well grow up and realize that they are multi-million-dollar professionals, not boyz in da hood any longer.

133 posted on 01/08/2004 7:47:52 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Solson
Yup, but I think they might go all the way. It would be hysterical if the Pack took them out of it. They deserve it with articles like this.
134 posted on 01/08/2004 7:48:02 PM PST by faithincowboys ( Zell Miller is the only DC Democrat not committing treason.)
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To: Lakeside
Now, why do I have this sudden urge for fried cheese curds....?

Oh, now I'm hungry :-)

As for FIBs? I've thought of blockading I-90-94 from Memorial Day through Labor Day, but that's just me.

And g'night! I'm going to be anxious and antsy until Sunday.

135 posted on 01/08/2004 7:54:38 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: MizzouTigerRepublican
He has been overrated for the last 6 years.

Overrated, huh?

Over 200 consecutive starts at perhaps the most demanding position in sports?

The NFL's only 3-time MVP?

3rd behind Marino and Montana in career touchdown passes?

Could possibly break Unitas' streak of consecutive game touchdown passes next season?

Led the league in touchdown passes this year at the age of 34?

May break all the QB records if he plays for the next 3-5 years?

I could go on....

136 posted on 01/08/2004 7:55:45 PM PST by BlkConserv
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To: MizzouTigerRepublican
You are smoking some serious Cheech-and-Chong weed if you think Favre is overrated.

Go to the Packers website and read the laundry list of QB records and statistics set by Favre. The guy is the toughest QB ever to play the game. Never been injured.

Give him another 3 years and he'll break all of Marino and Elway's records.

137 posted on 01/08/2004 7:59:07 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (EEE)
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To: RightOnline
You need to understand the Irv mystique, especially in Green Bay.

The little factoid this prick reporter chose to not share was that the guy who died in the car-train crash his brother Scott was charged and jailed for was Brett and Scott's oldest, best friend Mark Haverty. He, Scott and Brett lived together in Green Bay the first years of Brett's career up there. Irv was instrumental in pulling his boys out of the depression you can imagine they felt given those circumstances. He made them stand up men again.

Irv was a regular contributor on the Packers Radio Network. The guy pulled NO punches. He was a helluva man.

Deanna Favre wasn't some floozy who was knocked up early, and abandoned. She was ALWAYS part of Bretts life, and after they were married, she gave Brett an unltimatum ... "it's the booze and carousing or your family. Choose." He chose family. Russel left that fact out, as well as Brett's painful recovery from a Vicodin addiction. Every WWE wrestler who has died in the past three years, and I've known most of them, lived their lives in pain, and several died from pain killers in their early 40s.

I know FR doesn't like this kind of comment but: I pray I see Don Russell nose to nose some day. He's a scumbag. I'll do a Freeper Action report after I'm bailed out.

138 posted on 01/08/2004 8:07:16 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: SICSEMPERTYRANNUS
Cmon don't rub it in

Yeah right

139 posted on 01/08/2004 8:09:21 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Never been injured.

He's been injured--he's got a broken thumb right now. But he's never missed a game due to injury.

This only goes back to 2001.  I know he's had injuries prior to that.

 

BRETT FAVRE
BRETT FAVRE Green Bay Packers | QB | #4
College: Southern Mississippi Rookie Yr: 1991
Ht., Wt.: 6'2", 225
Contract Status: Active
NFL Exp.: 13
Born: October 10, 1969 in Gulfport , MS
Main Stats
Splits: Passing | Rushing
Transactions | Injuries
Game Log

 

INJURIES
Date Status Injury
11/26/2003 Probable Thumb
11/12/2003 Probable Thumb
11/05/2003 Probable Thumb
10/29/2003 Probable Thumb
01/02/2003 Probable Ankle/knee
12/26/2002 Probable Knee/ankle
12/18/2002 Probable Knee/ankle
10/30/2002 Questionable Knee
10/20/2002 Day-to-day Sprained left knee
10/09/2002 Probable Elbow
01/16/2002 Probable Back/side
01/09/2002 Probable Side/back
01/02/2002 Probable Side/back
11/29/2001 Probable Back

140 posted on 01/08/2004 8:24:57 PM PST by Catspaw
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