[spacewarp]

The IRS agents in the first trial, and it was attempted in the second, were asked to produce the tax code that allowed for witholding. You were able to find it rather quickly. Instead of responding, they just declared they weren't going to answer the question. In the second trial, they were not even given the chance to declare their refusal to explain because the judge stomped on the defense attorney.

I do not know, or rather did not know about the $235,000. I agree that is clearly a problem. And quite frankly, if the government had presented its case above board and openly and honestly, I would have absolutely no issue with it. But the fact is, they didn't. They took the tack that they're better than the rest of us. If I took the stand and did what they did, I'd be in jail. I am NOT one of those who hates our country, as was so elegantly put in one of the prior posts. I love our country, and am trying to work for a better future. One where we don't have tyrants running our courts and tyrants running federal agencies that dictate to us what we will do and haughtily sneer when we ask them to explain where they derived the power to ask us to do it.

Again, if the prosecution had performed above board, I certainly would have been fine with a person, who knowingly broke the law, being prosecuted and thrown in jail. But this behind the scenes stuff, on such an important issue just reeks of tyranny. And if you don't worry, then you're in trouble. Eventually, they will turn worse and worse if they're allowed to get away with junk like this. Look at the 9th Circuit. They were allowed for so long to do stupid things that smacked of tyranny, and now, we have a kangaroo court out there. It starts out with one act and then another and another. And this one is just a perfect instance of the prosecutor and the judge and the IRS collaborating to ensure the status quo was not disturbed.

I hope you can see my point that tyranny cannot ever be defended, even if the concept they are arguing is correct, their methods were wrong.

[Hon]

You and others here seem very eager to slop over into purple prose about tyranny. Many criminals blame the system when they are caught and shout about tyranny. That doesn't make it so.

There is no tyranny in enforcing laws that were written and enacted by our elected representatives and upheld as Constitutional by the Supreme Court.

It is just the opposite. It is a victory of the rule of law as opposed to the rule of men.

Simkanin and those who back him and support him think they can overturn our laws with their outrageous lies and bogus propaganda and their preposterous grandstanding before juries.

I hope that that will never be the case and that people like them will never succeed. If you like our system of government and the rule of law, you should hope that too.

[Poohbah]

The IRS agents in the first trial, and it was attempted in the second, were asked to produce the tax code that allowed for witholding. You were able to find it rather quickly. Instead of responding, they just declared they weren't going to answer the question.

And they were upheld, because the issue of what the law says has already been litigated multiple times.

In the second trial, they were not even given the chance to declare their refusal to explain because the judge stomped on the defense attorney.

Do you think that the course of justice would be served if the defense in a murder trial were allowed to demand, repeatedly, at every single opportunity, that the cops cite the exact statute prohibiting murder?

That isn't the way the court system works.