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To: jimt
Your number 6 totally ignores the main problem: the welfare state. The amount of "social services" consumed by illegals is staggering. They've totally overrun our hospitals, schools, etc. They are net consumers of taxes by a huge margin.

Yes, they are huge net consumers of taxes, as I wrote... just go back and read what I wrote about the California budget deficit. There are lots of ways to address that, like for example only providing emergency government services to work-permit holders (e.g. hospital ER yes, welfare or free education no), and of course making them all legal in some way and therefore fully taxed. I actually think Bush is coming out with this proposal now is at least in part at Arnold's urging, because Arnold needs this to fix the state budget.

Many come here "yearning to eat free". We're tired of it.

Actually, that is not the primary reason. Sure, they'll take handouts if we give them handouts, but in my experience the reason they come here is because it is a much better place to live. Mexico, let's face it, doesn't *have* laws and is just generally a pestillential hellhole. Most of the immigrants I know are extremely hard-working and industrious. A $6/hour job in the US (*without* welfare) is basically heaven to them, because they have *hope*.

28 posted on 01/08/2004 6:29:54 AM PST by paper avalanche
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To: paper avalanche
Sure, they'll take handouts if we give them handouts, but in my experience the reason they come here is because it is a much better place to live.

Bush's proposal does exactly nothing to address the huge social services drain. Bush's proposal does exactly nothing to address the "anchor baby" issue.

These aren't just minor flaws, they're the crux of the problem. Very few people would object to folks simply coming here to work. I have major and severe objections to increasing the number of parasites living off my taxes.

37 posted on 01/08/2004 7:10:35 AM PST by jimt
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