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Controlled immigration is the key. Knowing who has come into the country, where they're from, what possible diseases they may carry, what links they may or may not have to known terror groups, the whole number allowed in, etc.

The point is not to eliminate immigration. It is to control who comes in and how many to admit. When a nation cannot give an accurate count of the number of illegals in its midst, it is vulnerable to a host of problems. Increased crime, increased burdens on infrastructure, increased burdens on the educational and medical systems...to name a few. It is the failure to enforce laws designed to define national borders that contributes to a loss of sovereignty. Bowing to the demands of foreign states which demand that their unwanted be allowed to cross borders without interference is a loss of sovereignty. The euphemism "guest worker" used to describe this amnesty is a lie cloaked in fancy dress. Those illegals who seek legal status have no loyalty to this country, nor have they pledged fealty to the United States of America. They come for financial and selfish gain...period. Without fealty to this nation and our laws, customs and national and historic traditions, the illegal who comes for selfish purposes carries with him foreign cultures and traditions independent and alien to this nation and its best interests.

Yeaahhhhhh!!!!!!! And don't come back!
What thumper said!
uh, huh, huh; he said "feel tee", uh huh huh.
Just kidding. Great post.

Controlled immigration is the key. Knowing who has come into the country, where they're from, what possible diseases they may carry, what links they may or may not have to known terror groups, the whole number allowed in, etc. The point is not to eliminate immigration. It is to control who comes in and how many to admit. When a nation cannot give an accurate count of the number of illegals in its midst, it is vulnerable to a host of problems. Increased crime, increased burdens on infrastructure, increased burdens on the educational and medical systems...to name a few. It is the failure to enforce laws designed to define national borders that contributes to a loss of sovereignty. Bowing to the demands of foreign states which demand that their unwanted be allowed to cross borders without interference is a loss of sovereignty. The euphemism "guest worker" used to describe this amnesty is a lie cloaked in fancy dress. Those illegals who seek legal status have no loyalty to this country, nor have they pledged fealty to the United States of America. They come for financial and selfish gain...period. Without fealty to this nation and our laws, customs and national and historic traditions, the illegal who comes for selfish purposes carries with him foreign cultures and traditions independent and alien to this nation and its best interests.

"The point is not to eliminate immigration. It is to control who comes in and how many to admit."

Agreed.

That is why the hyper-ventilation over this program is mis-placed.

The guest worker program is a way to channel the immigration and regularize the currently underground economy.

Too many here seem to not want ANY immigration. So let me ask you all: What is the proper amount of legal immigration (per year) in terms of our percentage of population?
(eg. 1%, 2%, etc.)
And what would be the best *reasons* for immigration? waiting job? family links? send a big check to the US govt?

"The euphemism "guest worker" used to describe this amnesty is a lie cloaked in fancy dress. " That is not a serious comment. I've refuted that point elsewhere. Amnesty is granting gree cards, and this doesnt do that. It's not amnesty.

"Those illegals who seek legal status have no loyalty to this country, nor have they pledged fealty to the United States of America. They come for financial and selfish gain...period." And many legal immigrants come for financial gain. What's the problem with that?

What if the 8 million illegals were swedish women coming here to staff tanning salons and snag ski instructor jobs. would you be that bent out of shape about it?