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To: CalKat
If they wanted to, INS could easily round up illegal immigrants now in the way you propose. Why don't they just do that?

And where would you start? Most of the illegals are employed under the table. With this new law, if you don't have a blue card you can be deported. They will start to enforce this new law because now there will be no excuse and the American people will not be able to have their heartstrings pulled with that old canard about "they're just trying to have a better life" and "they're paying taxes". They aren't most of them have never had a dime taken from their checks. This will allow us to identify those who are and those who aren't. It's a start on fixing a HUGE problem.

Look, I live in Arizona and illegals are everywhere. Once the City of Chandler tried rounding up the illegals and you wouldn't believe the trouble they got into. These groups actually sued the city. Yeah, I know we have laws on the books. The problem is, when those laws have been ignored for decades our courts can pretty much do as they please. People get away with saying it's common practice. That's why there has to be a NEW law so when enforcement starts everyone will understand.

President Bush's proposal is very reasonable. They will not be able to claim that it is onerous to enforce it because those who do not obtain a blue card are very obviously skirting the law that is REASONABLE.

102 posted on 01/07/2004 3:10:24 PM PST by McGavin999 (Don't be a Freeploader-Have you donated yet?)
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To: McGavin999
You say, "with this new law, if you don't have a blue card you can be deported".

Huh? Under the current law if you don't have a green card you can be deported. How is this blue card going to cure all the problems? I don't see how any of the examples you are giving to show how the new laws will be enforced are any different than what could be done now to enforce the current laws, without granting amnesty to millions of illegal aliens.

I live in Southern California myself, and have much exposure to illegal aliens.
105 posted on 01/07/2004 3:19:02 PM PST by CalKat
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To: McGavin999
Most of the illegals are employed under the table.

Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to know how much is going on under the table. But even if an employer doesn't want to hire illegals it's pretty easy to get around the checks.

135 posted on 01/07/2004 3:55:47 PM PST by MattAMiller (Saddam has been brought to justice in my name. How about yours?)
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To: McGavin999
"They will start to enforce this new law because now there will be no excuse and the American people will not be able to have their heartstrings pulled with that old canard about "they're just trying to have a better life" and "they're paying taxes"."

But according to your words. We can't inforce it because we won't know who they are.

The truth is that the government does not want to know who they are. They let them go even after they catch them red handed. That is IMF policy...Not law...but policy. Now ask yourself why that is ?
212 posted on 01/07/2004 5:19:45 PM PST by Revel
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