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To: Justin714
And now suddenly all these illegals will be granted 3-year-visas and services paid for by my tax dollars.

What services are you referring to? Remember, under this program, these workers would be here legally only if they have a job, and their family can only come in if they can be supported by the worker. Any services they receive (schools, police, etc) will be paid by their tax dollars as well (since they will be here legally, they will also be paying taxes).

465 posted on 01/07/2004 12:32:51 PM PST by CA Conservative
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To: CA Conservative
Any services they receive (schools, police, etc) will be paid by their tax dollars as well (since they will be here legally, they will also be paying taxes).

The liberals are already whining because temporary workers will be paying taxes but not voting.

There is nothing new.

US permanent residents ["green card" holders] are not allowed to vote either.

How can US temporary residents [the proposed "blue card" holders] be allowed to vote?

Besides the current waiting period of 5 years of US permanent residency before being allowed to apply for US citizenship, future US citizens should be given a more rigorous test of English and American history.

I applaud President Bush for raising this issue about our current lax citizenship tests.

528 posted on 01/07/2004 12:39:12 PM PST by george wythe
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To: CA Conservative
Thank you for your voice of reason in this fit of hysteria.
563 posted on 01/07/2004 12:43:16 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: CA Conservative
I have to interject here because your line of thinking is widespread and flawed. I have alot of experience in this area.

One of your arguments is that these present illegal or 'undocumented' workers pay taxes and hence deserve the benefits conferred on all taxpayers.

This is simply not true.

First recognize that the jobs these workers are performing are very low paying jobs yet most of these workers are are associated with families that are four times the size of the national average and that accounts only for nonworking family members.

For every $1 paid for by an illegal undocumented worker there are $4 used in social services by their spouses, children and parents. Most of these services are in the form of healthcare and education. Other drains on our social service budgets are in the form of legal, food and housing subsidies, and translators since these workers and their families seldom take the time to learn English.

Second, much of the pay that these workers receive in the USA is sent back to Mexico. This means in short that wealth is transferred out of the USA. Furthermore, these funds are used to make ready another group of 'undocumented' workers, and the cycle is repeated. Fifteen years ago The U.S. Government estimated the illegal population to be two million, now there are estimates of upwards of twelve million. It is a safe bet to conclude that this migration was paid for by American businesses.

What we have here is simply a transference of the impoverished class of Mexico (mostly) to North America. If everyone of them paid their way there would be virtually no opposition to their presence. But the evidence is overwhelming that they do not in fact pay their way.

Lastly, Americans today have a problem with these uninvited guests. That problem is that many of these uninviteds are not loyal to America and they have no motivation to adapt themselves or their children to American values.

I personally have witnessed the duplicity of their leaders, their alterior motives. They know there is political power in numbers. They know that political power is key to landing jobs, contracts and special rights. To that end, they are motivated to increase their numbers and to keep themselves culturally distinct.

I have met hundreds of legal immigrants especially from former Soviet bloc countries that have genuinely praised the USA for giving them an opportunity to live free. I have not seen a like response from those south of the border and that bothers not only me but millions of other Americans.

This latest demand is a big mistake.
757 posted on 01/07/2004 1:09:16 PM PST by Hostage
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